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[machinebacon]

I propose that someone (other than me) makes a new thread for these purposes :)

So here it is!

What should Hamlet slartie tackle next in his podcast/newsletter/howtos?

[bones]

Hmmm, good question. How about: coreutils vs. adding a bunch of bloat that does the same shit

[rhowaldt]

how about: when you eat yoghurt, does it come out as poo or pee?

[Dr_Chroot]

^ I'll second this suggestion.

[slartie]

how about: when you eat yoghurt, does it come out as poo or pee?

Neither. Yoghurt is the only substance known to man that cannot be secreted or extracted. Yoghurt merges with your body and becomes part of it. Over the course of several months of yoghurt intake, it will latch onto your brain and start making you say shit like "it's real good for you", "it does wonders for my digestion", and "you should try some - you look like you need it." This is followed by a stench of smugness that usually sets off most modern fire alarms.

This has been a public service announcement.

edit: oh, I forgot .... fuck yoghurt.

[dkeg]

Hmmm, good question. How about: coreutils vs. adding a bunch of bloat that does the same shit

+1
Now this should be an interesting rant.

[slartie]

Maybe I just haven't paid attention, but how many coreutils "replacements" do we really have floating around out there. I've noticed the nc<whatever> ones that have popped up over the years, but what else?

[bones]

slartie, I'm talking about specifically the tendency towards an entire move away from the "Unix way" in favor of GUI tools, I guess. But even amongst the cli-warriors, we see the usage of (just taking file managers as an example), ranger, clex, mc, vifm, lfm, etc. Not that I have a problem with these (use them myself occasionally), but I think there's something to be said about being familiar with the tools you already have, before feeling like you need to install MOAR STUFF!

[bones]

edit: oh, I forgot .... fuck yoghurt.

George Carlin on yogurt (at about 1:25):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwYFMzOGOnM

[slartie]

slartie, I'm talking about specifically the tendency towards an entire move away from the "Unix way" in favor of GUI tools, I guess.

Like the overgrown fucking terminal emulators that does just about everything apart from emulating a fucking VT100 properly... that shit annoys the fuck out of me.

[bones]

Like the overgrown fucking terminal emulators that does just about everything apart from emulating a fucking VT100 properly... that shit annoys the fuck out of me.

Ya see, there's the beginning of a rant right there! ;)

[rhowaldt]

i guess i should've said "if" instead of "when" ;)
great explanation though Slartie, i never knew that!

[ivanovnegro]

Ok, I see we already have that thread, thanks. See:

http://linuxbbq.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?f ... 220#p36271

[dkeg]

yeah David, I can see that happening. It would be fun!

[stark]

How about GNU userland vs BSD userland vs Plan 9 userland ?

[bones]

^ Good one.

[rhowaldt]

how about "in a fight between Richard Stallman and Linus Torvalds, who would win?"

[stark]

^ http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Richard_ ... s_Torvalds ( NSFWL )

[slartie]

I'd definitely want some bbq'ers on the podcast, that's a given.

The userland thing can get very ugly very quickly. I like it.

LT vs RMS ... Linus wins. He has a harpoon gun. RMS has .. well .. a drum circle and bare feet.

[machinebacon]

"The unloved stepchild: terminal applications in the 21st century" ;)