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And now I am back to Google Chrome. Same dev tools, but it just works on every website. It even seems quicker, buy maybe it's just me.

Going back and forth between Firefox and Opera, which has become a very pleasant reaquaintance. :)

Chrome revamped the UI to celebrate its 10 years. Rounded edges everywhere. A mix between Opera and Firefox? Who knows. :)

I'm still using firefox-esr, but I took a look at basilisk. Made by the same people who build Pale Moon, it's enough like Firefox that it might be an option if Firefox continues to get stupid.

GekkoP wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:14 am

Chrome revamped the UI to celebrate its 10 years. Rounded edges everywhere. A mix between Opera and Firefox? Who knows. :)

How strange. Now Chrome looks like the old Firefox with Australis.

^ Exactly. They say it's the Material Design, but I immediately thought "this just happened before".

Everything is material design these days, it's like brainwashing.

Gave up on Firefox, moved to Pale Moon.

Right now even using the ESR version of Firefox. I was actually too lazy to care. Quantum is good enough that it now makes sense as ESR.

Trying out latest Firefox, just for the sake of it. A bit snappier than Chrome, with a slightly better font rendering (or is it just my eyes?).

^ Although I had to add this to my userChrome.css to get decent font size in the dev tools:

If your fonts are set right for your OS they should look the same in both browsers (rendering wise) but you have to go to the fonts settings of them to adjust the fonts. I think both use different fonts by default. I always switch them to mine.

^ yeah fonts seem tiny these days, maybe it's my eyes :D
our ticket system is hardcoded to use Arial :/

^^ Font settings in Firefox reflects the one on my system. The font is picked up correctly, only the size was wrong.

Firefox doing good, so far, aside from some glitches whenever an Electron app is started. But I'm happy, so I can safely say I won't go back to Chrome/Opera soon.

^ Don't electron apps glitch everywhere? :P

Yeah, and they're heavy as an elephant with a giant penguin on his back.

Anyone tried Brave (and happy with it)?

At a first run it didn't impress me that much. It seems just another spin on the Chromium world. Glad to go back to it if I hear nice words about it, though.

It is basically Chromium stripped off of some privacy invading features and added some to protect it by default to the browser that you need extensions for in Firefox.

But I do not like that is is still another clone of Chrome and when I add all the things to Firefox, Firefox works better. Ublock is miles ahead from the default ad blocker integrated in Brave (one of their selling points). Brave also has a business model that you have to be a fan of it. I am not against it per se but I still do not trust it enough to be usable for me.

Brave is as bloated as Chrome and heavy, uses more RAM, uses an inefficient ad blocker. If you harden your Firefox you can have all the benefits of Brave and even beyond. Of course you have to do it and Brave is already offering you an out-of-the-box experience. Some users might prefer it that way. It is definitely different from the other Chromium clones in that regard but anything else is the same and you can still 'pollute' it with Chrome extensions.

I really prefer Firefox even if they mess it up sometimes because it is right now the only real alternative on the browser market that uses another engine than Blink and I think it works really great and it improved drastically. There is also the container stuff that you can only do on Firefox e.g. if you use Facebook.

All that said Brave is not a bad browser and I personally think it is better than all the other Chrome spinoffs.

^ Good, we're on the same line then. :)

I've come to appreciate Firefox again lately, and uBlock is really really great. Didn't think the built-in ad-blocker in Brave could match it, but it sure offers a step forward towards privacy concerns respect default Chrome.