How do you like to install an OS?

Unread post by **machinebacon** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:54 pm

Just checking the water temperature here. If you install a new OS, what is your preferred and second-best way of installing? If you like, please specify or write a few words.

Thanks a lot!

Unread post by **bones** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:00 pm

I chose:

* Live session with CLI installer
* Installation ISO with CLI installer

Unread post by **machinebacon** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:05 pm

Oh maybe I should also write which I picked, and why:

- live ISO with CLI installer -- in the past I used these with Live session to fix other people's computers. Today, I don't really need it anymore because fixing other people's computer just means extra tech support for free.

- bootstrapping -- a super clean way of getting an unpopped system on a partition. One of my favorite toys.

Unread post by **dkeg** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:26 pm

I'm happy and fine with how it is now. So I picked live ISO with ClIt installer.

Unread post by **bones** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:09 pm

I have to admit that I have done neither "download tarball into chroot, manual (like gentoo)" or "bootstrapping." I need to get up to speed with that shit. :(

Unread post by **RandomCharacter** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:16 pm

I really love the Gentoo stage3 method. It makes me feel "in touch" with what is being done.

Tim

Unread post by **GekkoP** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:17 pm

Live session with CLI installer, half-automated (like BBQ): clean, simple, fast.
Installation ISO with CLI installer, half-automated (like netinstall): easy, when I need a vanilla Debian I'm going this way.

Unread post by **pidsley** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:41 pm

Where is the "whatever is easiest for the distro builder" option? That would be my first choice.

Failing that, I chose the same options as GekkoP and bones, with my first choice probably install iso with cli installer. I don't mind any of the other methods, but I think the first two are unnecessary and attract idiots.

Having an install-only iso prevents "why my installed version no werk like live?" questions. If I need a live system for troubleshooting, there are plenty out there (a puppy spin makes a very nice rescue stick). On the other hand, if you want people to be able to try the system before they install it, of course you need a live session.

The last two are fine with me, but will probably generate more support questions.

I think it all comes down to who you think is the target audience.

Unread post by **twoion** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:53 pm

The Debian installer (in advanced mode or-what-is-it-called) with a netinstall is IMHO the Best Thing Ever.

Unread post by **rhowaldt** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:01 pm

i'm with pidsley on this one. and added to that, i think live sessions are largely unnecessary for "tryinng out" a system. whoever is going to work with bbq is just installing it in vbox first if they wanna try, or will have a couple spare partitions left. is what i think.

Unread post by **simgin** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:36 pm

1. Half automated like the BBQ
2. Net-install

But ofc it is all up to you Jules, and Pids you added some valid points there.

Cheers
Simon

Ps. I wish I was tech savvy enough to do the stage3, it always fails for me.

Unread post by **Dr_Chroot** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:47 am

^ Everything simgin said :D (Except that I forgot to check net-install.)

Edit: But I had a stage3 work for me, with the help of a Russian on krautchan's irc who was very helpful with genkernel. That was nice, though I would like to be able to compile one from scratch one day when my neckbeard is long enough :D

Unread post by **rust collector** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:39 am

I prefer the netinstall way.

Unread post by **machinebacon** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:16 am

Just to make clear, I only want to know what kind of installer the people who visit this forums USUALLY prefer to use (note the "an OS", and not "the LinuxBBQ releases in the future"); nothing more nothing less. Water temperature check (or in other words: who prefers to take luke-warm showers?)

I was just curious what my friends on this board usually use.

Unread post by **DebianJoe** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:05 am

I liked the Win 95/98 via floppy disk install. Wasn't it like 16 floppies that had to be loaded? "Insert disk 13 of 16 and press 'enter'". Made me feel like I was needed, because those floppies won't change themselves.

Anyhow, it really doesn't make me a whole lot of difference as to what method is used. I chose Live + CLI because....well, honestly, I don't guess I have a reason. I just end up using that method due to our use of it here more often than anything else. I use whatever is supported by the product that I wish to install.

Unread post by **stark** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:35 am

I'm really tempted to try the bootstrap method. This method works on top of any OS right ?

Unread post by **machinebacon** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:05 pm

^ Generally, yes.

Unread post by **wuxmedia** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:16 pm

I'm with the crowd, whatever works really.

Unread post by **Dr_Chroot** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:40 pm

^ This too. I really don't mind what method is used, just as long as it works and the community is generally comfortable with it.

Unread post by **ivanovnegro** » Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:31 am

I always prefer a CLI installer without a live session in the first place, like the Debian or even Slackware installer (love the simplified Salix CLI installer btw but you already know that). I do not really need a live session. I know what I will get and I *can* read the release notes.

The second option would be the BBQ way of course, with a possible live session but an easy to use CLI installer. Nothing in the world can beat a good and simple, straight forward CLI installer. People just tend not to read anymore what is on the screen and want fancy art in an installer.

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