Yeah, liquorix also seems to behave the best on my Thinkpad x201. I wonder if that is a somewhat common relationshipmachinebacon wrote:Linux grill 4.1-4.dmz.1-liquorix-686 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT Debian 4.1-6 (2015-08-04) i686 GNU/Linux
Behaves very well on my Stinkpad T43, less so on the Toshiba (overheating like a boss).
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Work hard; Complain less
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Linux Bonecaster 4.4.4-pf #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Feb 13 22:18:03 WIB 2016 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Same setup in X (bspwm, urxvtd, compton, sxhkd, mksh as login shell, and uhhhhm ssh and gpg agent), Yes my setup isn't lightweight at all... xD same hardware, didn't turn any systemd (fuck you networkd and journald) units off, gave me :
Under BBQ Bork, the amount of RAM usage at start is a whooping ... 46 MB. Good enough for me.41 MB on Crux
56 MB on debian sid with systemd
65 MB on arch ( Systemd 228 on arch needs several configs turned on like freezer-cgroup, inotify, and some debugging ones)
80 MB on alpine-linux ( intel driver on X needs fbcon, fb, and a gajillion more modules to start. So much for being advertised as 'lightweight')
la la la la la la..... :)
kernel-config diff (between systemd and sysv / openrc) : https://transfer.sh/qyfxH/sysd-frankie.diff
EDIT: add diff as reference
NOTE: This isn't a scientific research. Results may vary between setups.
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$ uname -a
Linux barbecue 4.1.15-gentoo-r1 #2 SMP Mon Feb 22 08:37:19 EST 2016 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 4400 @ 2.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
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^ Is that the latest Gentoo stable kernel? LTS is up to 4.1.18 now.
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^ I pulled (emerge sys-kernel/gentoo-sources and was synced) it a few days ago maybe it updated since. On SID laptop now will check later and thanks for the heads up on LTS 4.1.18.
$ uname -a
Linux humangrill 4.4.0-1-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.4.2-3 (2016-02-21) i686 GNU/Linux
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I was just curious. There is probably very little real difference between 4.1.15 and 4.1.18. It does look like Gentoo is still on 4.1.15-r1.
https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/sy ... oo-sources
Do you know if Gentoo does any distro-specific kernel patches? That might be why they are a little behind.
I gave up trying to keep even an LTS kernel completely up to date. They change too fast.
https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/sy ... oo-sources
Do you know if Gentoo does any distro-specific kernel patches? That might be why they are a little behind.
I gave up trying to keep even an LTS kernel completely up to date. They change too fast.
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unless you have a shiny new machine I never really understood having the shiniest of shiny kernels.... we are still rocking 2.6.32-5-686-bigmem on some of our machines...all works just fine.
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Do you worry about security patches?
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I know what you mean, right now I am happy just to stay up to date with the distro.pidsley wrote:I gave up trying to keep even an LTS kernel completely up to date. They change too fast.
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* sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
Latest version available: 4.1.15-r1
Latest version installed: 4.1.15-r1
Description: Full sources including the Gentoo patchset for the 4.1 kernel tree
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I am quite happy with the 3.2 Wheezy kernel on some of my boxes. It would not give me a 1280x1024 console on one of my newer machines, but the backports 3.14 kernel does that fine. Everywhere else I use an LTS kernel.
The thing I don't understand about LTS though, is that I thought the idea was they were supposed to be "stable" and not need updating as often as mainline. But the LTS kernels seem to get updates just as often, and looking at the diffs they change a lot. Even the old 3.2 and 2.32 kernels get updates.
I don't keep my CRUX boxes (running LTS) up to date all the time though, because I just don't care. Maybe it's a security risk, but oh well.
The thing I don't understand about LTS though, is that I thought the idea was they were supposed to be "stable" and not need updating as often as mainline. But the LTS kernels seem to get updates just as often, and looking at the diffs they change a lot. Even the old 3.2 and 2.32 kernels get updates.
I don't keep my CRUX boxes (running LTS) up to date all the time though, because I just don't care. Maybe it's a security risk, but oh well.
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As one of the team USA pointed out - "Above my pay grade"pidsley wrote:Do you worry about security patches?
there weren't all that many, most of the new ones are too new :D
It does happen that machine is due an upgrade.
To be a security risk generally the kernel is attacked from userland (from the three or four priv escalation things i've seen) so I doubt your machines are unsafe.
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Good to know. Thanks wux.
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don't quote me on that, I'm hardly infosec guy. :)
It's a weird one we have had boxen pwned before, we DO very much stay on top of our normal security-updates.
It's a weird one we have had boxen pwned before, we DO very much stay on top of our normal security-updates.
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Yes, they do, however gentoo-sources are minimally patched. There are "git-sources" and "vanilla-sources" (unofficial) if you want to be a step ahead - unpatched - if applicable.pidsley wrote:Do you know if Gentoo does any distro-specific kernel patches?
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stan@grill:~$ uname -a
Linux grill 4.5.0-rc4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.5~rc4-1~exp1 (2016-02-18) i686 GNU/Linux
Linux grill 4.5.0-rc4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.5~rc4-1~exp1 (2016-02-18) i686 GNU/Linux
GUIs??? We don't need no stinkin' GUIs!!!
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BTW, I'm running the gentoo-sources-4.4.3 kernel on my Gentoo and Funtoo installs
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uname -a
Linux soylent 4.4.0-1-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.4.2-3 (2016-02-21) i686 GNU/Linux
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Linux humangrill 4.4.0-1-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.4.4-1 (2016-03-07) i686 GNU/Linux
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Updates coming faster.
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Linux humangrill 4.4.0-1-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.4.4-2 (2016-03-09) i686 GNU/Linux
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iMac:~ John$ uname -a
Darwin iMac.local 15.3.0 Darwin Kernel Version 15.3.0: Thu Dec 10 18:40:58 PST 2015; root:xnu-3248.30.4~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64