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TTY Machine

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:48 pm
by machinebacon
Do you have a computer that is designated as a TTY/framebuffer system only?

If you only have one computer, do you have a TTY-only partition reserved on the hard drive?

Thanks in advance!

Re: TTY Machine

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:07 pm
by wuxmedia
I did have, but... ended up getting eaten up, by normal X installs :(

Re: TTY Machine

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:08 pm
by GekkoP
I had a tty/framebuffer setup on my Aspire 1304XC, which was one of first experiments you guys helped me with.
Now I use Kermacs both in tty and X, so I guess that's the only partition I have where X is rarely involved. Also, the server here at the school is tty only, but I usually toy with it via ssh from my Inspiron. So yes, I cheat a lot.

Re: TTY Machine

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:55 pm
by machinebacon
The little Asus EeePC 900 is now totally X-less (I played a bit with i3 for a little while), it's running Adipositas, and directly booting in Emacs in TTY1 and tmux in TTY2. The main reason is to get most out of the battery. On all other PCs I have at least one partition without X, in different flavours.

Re: TTY Machine

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 3:13 pm
by maso
^^ I've got an EeePC 701, which I use to play with spins and test things. Smoothie is on it now (and works nicely). I've played with Adipositas as a live system. Maybe I should just install that instead and get more comfortable with a tty-only situation.

Re: TTY Machine

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:47 pm
by ivanovnegro
I was never into this TTY-only stuff. I am sure you noted my absence in those threads. :)

Re: TTY Machine

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:11 am
by anticapitalista
Hi!

Running an Xless partition with antiX-15-core-sid with nosystemd at all and eudev! Also with irssi, elinks, newsbeuter, screen (what no tmux?), alpine, moc, mc. Works really well!

Re: TTY Machine

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:41 am
by dkeg
I voted no way man. I have though, never to any extent. And I could, since sometime I mainly just in a term and IRC session, but obviously generally in X.

Re: TTY Machine

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:30 am
by wuxmedia
^ 'futzing' around with X windows/colours/configs :)
If anyone could make a TTY pretty - it'd be you 'keggers.

I suppose the whole datacenter could be considered TTY machines :) not really mine though, quite annoying on a raw TTY - not having tmux or other luxuries on them - have to recall commands, no GPM etc.

Re: TTY Machine

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:53 am
by vic
Nope, I am too much of a dumbfuq to go where no X has been. Had beeen cool though. :)

Re: TTY Machine

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:34 am
by Snap
I'm on X mostly, but Adipositas lives in my secondary drive.

Re: TTY Machine

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:51 pm
by Theo
Yes one machine is running slackware without X

Re: TTY Machine

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:37 pm
by doubledutch
Do headless machines count? Ones without X installed on them, but that you would never (usually) hook a monitor up to anyway? I've got Adipositas on one machine on my homelab work desk's KVM that I switch over to sometimes, as I don't want to install even SSH on it... but I can name 4 regular-use machines that are TTY-only in that I never "look" at them, only connect to them via SSH (and 3 of them are not running any sort of web interface, either).

Re: TTY Machine

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:13 am
by machinebacon
^ oh sure, headless machines count, absolutely. And to some extend virtual machines count too ;D

Re: TTY Machine

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:31 am
by pidsley
I have a headless NFS server with an X-less wheezy netinstall, a couple of machines with X-less stable installs controlling grub and NFS, and I have X on my core2 quad CRUX machine, but almost never use it (I use that machine mostly in tmux in the console as a build machine for buildroot and kernels.)

Re: TTY Machine

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:04 am
by noo_b_nomnoms
Time to get embarrassed. I have no idea what to do with a tty. If I accidentally end up there, I am looking at that screen like a deer in the headlights of an oncoming semi.
Ditto on the fb. I will sometimes click on the framebuffer session just to gaze at the screen in awe, just wondering at the marvelous things that people must be doing with their fb's.
Alas! I can only dream!

Re: TTY Machine

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:52 am
by wuxmedia
^ it's easy enough if you accidentally end up in tty, BBQ's X-session aren't bound to tty 7 (Ctrl-Alt F7) BTW - more like tty 1 IIRC.
well you have a login prompt. you can login. If things goes tits up, I log in as root and kill the proccess or just reboot.

Re: TTY Machine

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:56 am
by wuxmedia
PS. this might intrigue you enough:
http://linuxbbq.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?f ... cipe#p4656
use the latest NOX base, adipostas IIRC?

Re: TTY Machine

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:56 pm
by machinebacon
Adipositas lets you do 90% of what you can do in any X11 session, it's a full-feat console desktop. Of course, it has a steep learning curve and you will need to bite on your fingers not to accidentally install Xorg and shit, but it rewards you with an insight into the brilliant world of CLI/TUI tools. Of course nobody can be forced to learn this, but yeah - Xorg might break some day, and you probably want to be still able to check mails, browse the web, log on to our BBQ chatroom, work with files, listen to the radio or watch videos. That's what Adipositas is set up for.

I will cover the release in detail sometime in the near future.

Re: TTY Machine

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:22 pm
by noo_b_nomnoms
Adipositas sounds pretty interesting! I'm gonna give it a spin around the old block dev! I've seen you mention it in a few other posts as well. Something new to do! I really do have to thank you guys for giving me the inspiration to try something different.