BBQ Democrat - Base System

Unread post by **machinebacon** » Sat May 18, 2013 1:25 pm

Now that we know that the Democrat will (most probably) run with an Xsession, please choose one architecture, an init system, and one login/display manager.

Unread post by **dkeg** » Sun May 19, 2013 3:53 am

64, systemd, xinitrc

Unread post by **paolo** » Sun May 19, 2013 9:39 am

i686 (also if is possible i486 for recuperate old pc),systemd,slim (more configurable then lightdm)

Unread post by **machinebacon** » Sun May 19, 2013 9:47 am

^paolo, I am also a follower of i686 and usually most (!) commonly used desktop and laptop PC should work well with the 686 version. 486 was/is in the experimental Debian repos, but I think I won't be able to reproduce a custom kernel.

About SLiM, well, there's always somebody who wants his Extrawurst :D (German: a specially roasted sausage)

Unread post by **wuxmedia** » Sun May 19, 2013 7:40 pm

i686 (because skype is slighty less 5h1t, and i only have 2 64bit systems)
systemd (gnome3 no-no 8p )
xinitrc (lockdown on sessions) unless forum helped.

BTW i got amiwm working, then i hosed my entire system 8D

Unread post by **machinebacon** » Sun May 19, 2013 8:53 pm

wux, in a few days I got a lil' surprise for you ;)

Unread post by **wuxmedia** » Sun May 19, 2013 11:02 pm

you devil, you.... the system hosedown has made me reconfigure with many more partitions... for future hoseing - i mean testing 8)

Unread post by **machinebacon** » Mon May 20, 2013 5:32 am

Talking of udevil:

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sudo apt-get install libudev-dev 
wget -c http://linuxbbq.org/incoming/udevil.deb
wget -c http://linuxbbq.org/incoming/spacefm.deb
sudo dpkg -i udevil.deb 
sudo dpkg -i spacefm.deb 
rm udevil.deb 
rm spacefm.deb 
sudo gtk-update-icon-cache -q -t -f /usr/share/icons/hicolor
sudo gtk-update-icon-cache -q -t -f /usr/share/icons/Faenza 
spacefm &

Have fun.

Unread post by **machinebacon** » Mon May 20, 2013 5:35 am

Side note: the Democrat will be for both architectures (because I have a big ... heart) :)

Unread post by **Verändert** » Mon May 20, 2013 8:50 am

Systemd ftw. Slim is for gamblers (will it let me in or not, ladies and gentlemen, place your bets)

Unread post by **rhowaldt** » Mon May 20, 2013 1:20 pm

^ will it eat my music or not ;)

Unread post by **paolo** » Mon May 20, 2013 6:14 pm

machinebacon wrote:^paolo, I am also a follower of i686 and usually most (!) commonly used desktop and laptop PC should work well with the 686 version. 486 was/is in the experimental Debian repos, but I think I won't be able to reproduce a custom kernel.

About SLiM, well, there's always somebody who wants his Extrawurst :D (German: a specially roasted sausage)

thanks Julius !
I think about i486 because of my volunteer activity in http://www.pcofficina.org in wich we recuperate old machine for schools, no profit organization and poor people using linux.
Actually I use Antix (and like it) or pure Debian stable or some light distro for help and teach people using linux and recuperate old machine

Edit: I make some mistake... excuseme Julius :-( I was typing fast

Unread post by **machinebacon** » Mon May 20, 2013 6:19 pm

Paolo,

this is good enough for me to create a custom spin for your project. Let me know what system you guys want, and I spin something for you :)

Send a PM if you like!

Unread post by **swftech** » Wed May 22, 2013 3:11 pm

i686
systemd

wait for it...

GDM :P

Unread post by **machinebacon** » Wed May 22, 2013 3:30 pm

Mikey, you mean the good-old gdm or the bad-new gdm3? :D

Unread post by **swftech** » Wed May 22, 2013 6:32 pm

The bad new one is sexiest, but I'm sure no one else thinks so :)

Unread post by **chris** » Thu May 23, 2013 8:58 am

I'm very bored ...: amd64 + systemd + lightdm (or xinitrc)

Unread post by **rhowaldt** » Thu May 23, 2013 9:56 am

@Mikey: well, i have to say that i agree with you on GDM being nice. it is that damned 'G' in there that bugs me, and my mind translates it to 'bloat'. but since everything is bloat, who cares? :D

Unread post by **machinebacon** » Thu May 23, 2013 10:15 am

True, let's make a dependency check:

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depends gdm3
gdm3
  Depends: libaccountsservice0
  Depends: libatk1.0-0
  Depends: libattr1
  Depends: libaudit0
  Depends: libc6
  Depends: libcairo-gobject2
  Depends: libcairo2
  Depends: libcanberra-gtk3-0
  Depends: libcanberra0
  Depends: libdbus-1-3
  Depends: libdbus-glib-1-2
  Depends: libfontconfig1
  Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0
  Depends: libglib2.0-0
  Depends: libgtk-3-0
  Depends: libpam0g
  Depends: libpango1.0-0
  Depends: libselinux1
  Depends: libupower-glib1
  Depends: libwrap0
  Depends: libx11-6
  Depends: libxau6
  Depends: libxdmcp6
  Depends: libxklavier16
  Depends: libxrandr2
  Depends: dconf-gsettings-backend
 |Depends: debconf
  Depends: <debconf-2.0>
    cdebconf
    debconf
  Depends: gir1.2-freedesktop
  Depends: gir1.2-glib-2.0
  Depends: adduser
  Depends: libpam-modules
  Depends: libpam-runtime
  Depends: gnome-session-bin
  Depends: gnome-settings-daemon
  Depends: metacity
  Depends: policykit-1-gnome
  Depends: upower
 |Depends: gnome-session
 |Depends: <x-session-manager>
    gnome-session
    gnome-session-fallback
    lxsession
    openbox
    xfce4-session
 |Depends: <x-window-manager>
  ---snip---
  Depends: <x-terminal-emulator>
  ---snip---
  Depends: lsb-base
  Depends: librsvg2-common
  Depends: accountsservice
  Depends: gsettings-desktop-schemas
  Depends: libglib2.0-bin
  Depends: dconf-tools
  Depends: x11-common
  Depends: x11-xserver-utils
  PreDepends: dpkg
  Suggests: libpam-gnome-keyring
  Suggests: gnome-orca
  Suggests: <gok>
  Suggests: gnome-shell
  Recommends: zenity
  Recommends: xserver-xephyr
  Recommends: x11-xkb-utils
  Recommends: xserver-xorg
  Recommends: at-spi2-core
  Recommends: gnome-icon-theme
  Recommends: gnome-icon-theme-symbolic
  Recommends: desktop-base

Sweet Jesus.

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 depends lightdm
lightdm
  Depends: libc6
  Depends: libgcrypt11
  Depends: libglib2.0-0
  Depends: libpam0g
  Depends: libxcb1
  Depends: libxdmcp6
 |Depends: debconf
  Depends: <debconf-2.0>
    cdebconf
    debconf
 |Depends: lightdm-gtk-greeter
  Depends: <lightdm-greeter>
    lightdm-gtk-greeter
    lightdm-kde-greeter
    lightdm-razorqt-greeter
  Depends: dbus
  Depends: consolekit
  Depends: adduser
  Suggests: accountsservice
  Suggests: upower
  Recommends: xserver-xorg

Talking of bloat...

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depends slim
slim
  Depends: libc6
  Depends: libck-connector0
  Depends: libdbus-1-3
  Depends: libfontconfig1
  Depends: libfreetype6
  Depends: libgcc1
  Depends: libjpeg8
  Depends: libpam0g
  Depends: libpng12-0
  Depends: libstdc++6
  Depends: libx11-6
  Depends: libxft2
  Depends: libxmu6
  Depends: libxrender1
  Depends: zlib1g
 |Depends: debconf
  Depends: <debconf-2.0>
    cdebconf
    debconf
  Depends: dbus
  Depends: consolekit
  Suggests: scrot
  Suggests: xauth
  Recommends: xterm

And one more...

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xdm
  Depends: libc6
  Depends: libpam0g
  Depends: libselinux1
  Depends: libx11-6
  Depends: libxau6
  Depends: libxaw7
  Depends: libxdmcp6
  Depends: libxext6
  Depends: libxft2
  Depends: libxinerama1
  Depends: libxmu6
  Depends: libxpm4
  Depends: libxrender1
  Depends: libxt6
 |Depends: debconf
  Depends: <debconf-2.0>
    cdebconf
    debconf
 |Depends: x11-utils
 |Depends: xbase-clients
  Depends: <xmessage>
  Depends: cpp
  Depends: lsb-base
  Depends: x11-xserver-utils
  Depends: procps

Roast Your Own opinion. And no, please nobody come up with '.xinitrc' because of course having a DM is heavier on dependencies than running none :)

Unread post by **vic** » Fri May 24, 2013 6:33 pm

i686/amd64/systemd with a :)

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