What are you actually running for daily/primary usage?

[ivanovnegro]

@DebianJoe - sharing dotfiles across distros, does that work?

Sure, most of the times. I have some apps I carry their config with me for years across distros, some of the bigger ones are like Firefox/Iceweasel (exchangeable) and VLC.

[digz]

i'm currently using crunchbang sid with evilwm as my arch broke and i needed something configured quickly for work.

when i have the time i'll probably do a custom sid install.

[4eyes]

Am suprised, and somewhat ashamed, to admit that I have now transitioned from 'trying out' ElementaryOS, to 'actually using' it on my main work machine. It is not exactly 'light', but it is fast and has great usability.

It still pains me to use a system based on Ubuntu, but as soon as somebody manages to get Pantheon 'et al' running on Debian, I'll switch back in a heart beat - I tried with no joy :(

As way to reduce the feelings of shame, I have upgraded all the laptops in the house to 'Arrogance' .

[ivanovnegro]

^ No reason to be ashamed. :)

[dkeg]

I also have a partition of eOS. it is nice for the eye candy, but i never really use it. i was interested in their project.

[machinebacon]

Let's see if we can roast Pantheon, just for fucks :D

[ivanovnegro]

^ Ah, sure. I like the idea.

[machinebacon]

...though I like the Pantheon idea as much as the Cinnamon idea, visualized:

5%

[4eyes]

that'd be neat

I think there was an AUR version for Arch, but from what I read nobody could really get it working as it should.

I tried a few different ways - but I am just a micro-step up from being a newbie with the detailed stuff.

[ivanovnegro]

...though I like the Pantheon idea as much as the Cinnamon idea, visualized:

5%

Exactly.

[pidsley]

I tried a few different ways - but I am just a micro-step up from being a newbie with the detailed stuff.

What did you try, specifically? And what problems did you have?

If you like Pantheon that much, there's nothing wrong with using a distro specifically designed around that DE.

[4eyes]

I didn't take notes - I didn't know there would be a test :)
.... and a lot of it was done in the wee small hours with the aid of alcohol .... so, as best as I can recall:

I tried installing on Arch via the AUR - got out of my depth really quickly there. My previous Arch-like experience had just been with Manjaro - so no surprise I guess.

I forget exactly what I did, but I did manage to get parts of it running on an old Debian install - following a guide that I googled for installing on Ubuntu - but it looked awful and was flaky as hell. I think it was just plank and slingshot that were running.

Then I pretty much gave up and went back to my Arrogance install and tried to replicate some of the usability of slingshot and plank under XFCE.

Not too bad - using 'Application Finder' as the menu and docky instead of plank - but still not really as 'nice' as eOS.

I know that isn't much help - I had kind of resigned myself to the fact that Pantheon wasn't yet ready for deploying elsewhere, so gave in and installed eOS again.

I just hate being tied to ubuntu - even by proxy.

Aside from the usability, the other reason I am using for my work machine is precisely that it doesn't allow much customisation - so I do the bloody work I am supposed to do instead of fucking about making things work differently.

I can always get that fix on one of my laptops once work is over.

[machinebacon]

The thing about 'Ubuntu is evil', can you explain? :)
I will now lose my street cred by saying it, but Ubuntu is quite a lean and snappy base system before Unity and gnome3.x is put on top of it. Pidsley knows what I mean, we have built several systems on Ubuntu's minimal ISO and it was by no means any worse than Debian's netinstall route. So really, I would like to know what people find bad about Ubuntu technically, keeping in mind that eOs is surely not built from the Ubuntu Unity system, but from scratch.

[DebianJoe]

My personal issues with Ubuntu are all related to Canonical's politics. My own foray into the Ubuntu/suckless build was enough to convince me that the system was perfectly adequate to do whatever with, but I'm with 4eyes. I avoid Ubuntu because of reasons other than the quality of their product. (RMS has apparently managed to at least brainwash me a little.)

[GekkoP]

^ same here.
Though I still install it to customers who read about it somewhere and wants to know more about it, I too am an RMS wannabe-slave.

[machinebacon]

I don't mean marketing politics or their Unity as default desktop, I really just want to know what technical issues people have with an Ubuntu mini.iso -- provided the people have already tried it once, recently (in the last 5 years)

[4eyes]

technically - nothing seriously wrong.

As with others - I don't like the way 'they' behave - too much like an 'open source' version of MS and Apple for my liking.

Not that I am squarely in the Stallman camp, but they do creep me out a bit.

A mini-ubuntu with all the corporate crap ripped out, and some BBQ tools built in would be fine-ish by me though.

[DebianJoe]

No problems at all with their product. Works fine. Their base is a solid way to build.

(note: I'm not enough of a FSF fanatic to not use my wifi if I have non-free drivers needed. I think that the term for our particular group is "hypocrites.")

[machinebacon]

Thanks Guys :)

4eyes, the UbuntuBBQ is just a few days away, I might upload it very soon - though it is not first priority.

[4eyes]

Sounds interesting :)

In fact, if there could be a 'selling point' for something that isn't needing to be sold, I would say the tagline could be :

'Ubuntu with all their crap removed, and BBQ crap added'

.. would be a great attraction for many :)