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NOX: Anorexia Alpha 2 (586)

Unread post by machinebacon » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:56 am

Dear community,

the time of the year has arrived, the base releases should get their well-deserved update.
Due to some X11-related problems upstream there will be some smaller changes at the very base of the release.

* The newest alpha (check the digits in the filename representing YYYYMMDD) can be found here:
http://www.linuxbbq.org/iso/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxbbq/files/alpha/

* I have created a special "issue" section (a bugtracker) for the base release that we first start working on:
https://waffle.io/linuxbbq/anorexia2016_issues
https://waffle.io/linuxbbq/anorexia2016_issues/join

* So, if you are interested and motivated to make Anorexia the perfect future base, please subscribe to this topic and file issues in the bugtracker at waffle.io.

* Put each issue one by one into the section "backlog". I will assign or label it properly.

* You can post problems here if you don't use github/waffle - I will enter them in the bugtracker.

* Don't expect an immediate support/fix here in this thread, it's meant to be an inbox only.

* Please don't open threads related to the alpha release in the support section.

Thank you for participating, and happy roasting!
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by wuxmedia » Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:25 pm

Wow, nice one, I'll give it a go.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by ivanovnegro » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:23 pm

Subscribed.

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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by machinebacon » Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:20 pm

Updated the first post.

The ISO can be found here:
primary server: http://www.linuxbbq.org/iso/
sourceforge mirror: https://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxbbq/files/alpha/

Username and password are "root". Pressing Alt-z will show a quick help.

Thank you and have fun!

And remember: no warranty :)
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by wuxmedia » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:12 pm

Will do - sf is fubar'd at the moment.
error 500 for /files/ :
Screenshot-2016-07-12--%_1280x800_scrot.png
I'll try in the morning, can always put it in linuxbbq.org/iso ?
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by twodogs » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:21 pm

Wux,

Keep trying! I had to hit the link a couple of times. Finally downloaded. :)

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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by pidsley » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:46 pm

Download worked for me. Runs live fine. Will try to install and test further tomorrow or later today.

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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by wuxmedia » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:53 pm

^ thanks all - seems happier now, sysadmin's curse :)
checking it out tomorrow, assuming nothing is on fire at work...
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by machinebacon » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:42 am

^ wux, I am totally okay if you put it in ../iso here, pretty sure it won't cause traffic. :) Thank you!
The sourceforge.net website is temporarily in static offline mode.
Only a very limited set of project pages are available until the main website returns to service.
Really unbelievable. Today is the first time I use SF in over 8 months, and they already rape my mood.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by wuxmedia » Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:33 am

^ OK, backup location (as SF was still 'down' for me) is:
linuxbbq.org/iso
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by darry1966 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:06 am

Test machine: Dell D620

Tested Live. Connects to Internet and updates fine. installed xorg and jwm and iceweasel - tried video via html5 on youtube and playback was fine and sound.

Only issue is that for some reason and this is the second time during an update that xserver-xorg-video-intel was not automatically installed during install of xorg and update - meaning failure to boot into x once startx command was issued. This is no biggie and is something I now know to check.

So congrats and thanks Julius on another great solid release.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by machinebacon » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:30 am

^ Thanks darry, it seems that "xserver-xorg-video-intel" is just a recommendation for xserver-xorg-video-all. Easy fix: add "xserver-xorg" as meta package and additionally either -intel or -qxl

I will put this into the X11 readme file. Good point.

Edit: from the Debian package page
The use of this driver is discouraged if your hw is new enough (ca. 2007 and newer). You can try uninstalling this driver and let the server use it's builtin modesetting driver instead.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by wuxmedia » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:54 am

^ that just fixed my install too. "ins xorg" seemed to not include it.
Saw your edit, this Acer is well behind 2007 :)

Other than that i3 installed pretty well, keyboard 'alt' is the 'extra letters' modifier, which is nice - a bit annoying as alt-. gives me a symbol, thats not an issue with this image (bacon gnashes teeth muttering "bah users grr")
suppose I should try a different WM or something..
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by machinebacon » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:08 am

Changes for 20160712
* upgrade all packages to 2016/07/12 versions
* X11: add user to input group
* remove cruft: mc and links dropped, gcc-5 completely replaced with gcc-6
* APT: change sources of Debian loadbalancer, update to new repo structure of siduction
* add keybind (Alt-z) in TTY to display README
* live session does not automagically log in to 'root' account

Changes for 20160713
* updated README and X11 help file
* added pristine ~/.xinitrc in /etc/skel
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by machinebacon » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:10 am

^^ wux, does it mean with the 'new Anorexia' the Alt-. behavior is good or bad? (sorry, I am thick again :)) In bash it usually does something like 'history up' or so.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by wuxmedia » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:00 am

I did change my keyboard with "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to my normal setup, Acer keyboard -UK, didn't have much effect in tty.
I'll make sure I get the new version, (so it isn't something I've fucked up) before I start delving.

'alt .' should (AFIAC) do 'last whitespace delimited word' not a funny symbol (R) I think.
Point being you can't please all of the users all of the time.
Doing 'esc .' has the desired effect in bash.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by machinebacon » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:05 am

Okay, I understand - but I have really no idea what causes this. There is nothing I added, removed, changed or altered about these. setxkbmap in .xinitrc is set to UK keyboard instead US?

Another thing, just to make things very clear:
- in TTY, does Alt-. produce actually the same like "arrow up", so going back in bash history?
- in TTY, does your UK keyboard fit?
If both are "yes", the problem is setxkbmap ;)
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by wuxmedia » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:25 am

OK, yeah probably setxkbmap.

- in TTY, does Alt-. produce actually the same like "arrow up", so going back in bash history?
Perfectly, not arrow up quite, but yeah last 'word' so like;
cp file file2
vim <alt-.> #edits file2
- in TTY, does your UK keyboard fit?
nope, even after a dpgk-reconfig...

had a fiddle with setxkbmap, couldn't get anything I wanted.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by machinebacon » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:26 am

^ to fix the second problem (UK keymap), can you install console-common please? It will bring you to the keymap screen then.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by wuxmedia » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:35 am

^ Ok cool, that's fixed the GB keyboard in the tty in the end, for some reason it expected a Mac keyboard, had to re-run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data"

To be clearer the alt is acting like 'compose key' Of course people who need an umlaut would be happy.
I thought normally the compose key was 'Alt Gr' used for 'extra' (as far as ASCII is concerned) chars?

but it works fine in i3 for switching desktops, window stuff. I've regenerated the i3 conf as proposed by the wizard, and no change.
Is no-one else getting this, then it must be something I did.

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