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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by darry1966 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:40 am

I have installed on my Dell D620 and it works great usual JWM setup with XFE. Video and sound and internet fine.

Anyway thanks for this new OS.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by machinebacon » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:16 am

Thanks darry for reporting, the more people try it the better it gets ;)
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by machinebacon » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:18 am

wuxmedia wrote:shock of the day, alt-dot still (for me) fucks up :(
installed X et al (as per ~/X11) and i3
didn't touch a thing related to keyboards still on "us" in xinitrc.

installed xfce4-terminal and all alt-dot ness works as expected, so something not connecting with .Xresources or xterm.

just for info, couldn't get urxvt to load from the beginning, complained about basefont. worked fine when I xfontselected and put it with -fn.
DID work after installing xfonts-terminus and a reboot/login perhaps put those together in the 'install for example urxvt'
PS alt-dot, as I'm sure by now you are fed up of hearing about, is fine and normal in urxvt also.. <- Not any more after purging xfce4-terminal.
Weird.
I'm remixing a X11 + cwm version, urxvt as terminal, and will put it up later on the server. Would you mind testing it there? Thanks!
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by machinebacon » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:22 am

wuxmedia wrote:first impressions:
bbqinstaller seems nicer, bigger window for copying files :)
console font looks nice. are those the default colours (for root)?
Weird - the debian loadbalancer fucked up some hashes, it would not upd... changed first entry to "ftp.uk.debian.org" in /etc/apt/sources/debian.list and it looks and upd's fine.
The loadbalancer is a huge load of shit. OTOH I am not interested in adding bloat for apt-spy, so either pray for loadbalancer to work normally, or manually edit to the closest location in sources.list. Can't do anything about it.
default colors for root can be set using "fbcolors".
console fonts come from console-common, you get Terminus and stuff there. dpkg-reconfigure it if you want changes.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by wuxmedia » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:41 am

machinebacon wrote:I'm remixing a X11 + cwm version, urxvt as terminal, and will put it up later on the server. Would you mind testing it there? Thanks!
sure thing, probably only me with this issue, normally is.
fucker about the loadbalancer being shit, that might stump a few people.

I was just thinking the defaults were quite nice colours, not sure if they were default, must be a while since i've seen them, I like the console font, why would I change it?
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by machinebacon » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:47 am

The default colors are "precision", I used the colors of Ubuntu for it (Pangolin, yep).

Does adding

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URxvt*eightBitInput: false
URxvt.metaSendsEscape: true
in Xresources do anything good? remember to xrdb -remove and xrdb -load ~/.Xresources.

If not, can you do the following in the meanwhile:
- on a PC where Alt-. works, please open a TTY, press Alt-. -- what happens?
- in Anorexia, open a TTY, press Alt-. -- what happens?
- in Anorexia, add xterm, set it as default term (or open it via dmenu or such), press Alt-. -- what happens?
I want to find out if it is a terminfo problem (wouldn't work in TTY then, either), or something about X (would work in TTY but not X) or something about the perl-extensions (would work in xterm but not rxvt). Perl is going through transition very soon.

Edit:
can you post the Xresources file from the PC where Alt-. works?
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by wuxmedia » Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:58 pm

machinebacon wrote: Does adding
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URxvt*eightBitInput: false
URxvt.metaSendsEscape: true
in Xresources do anything good? remember to xrdb -remove and xrdb -load ~/.Xresources.
?
Yes, seems that make urxvt work lovely and normal.

Works fine in all tty's, even catches the last commands from the bash history in anorexia.

Last .Xresources I used would be cardboard's one, i just added dkegs colours.
I'd have to pull the drive out to check though.

Fuck I just totally edited your post :(
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by machinebacon » Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:13 pm

Okay, some news, I might be totally wrong, but well:

I don't get Alt-. to work in spectrwm and cwm. Is it caught by the WM? No idea. Works only when I add Ctrl to the mix. I read a whole bunch of docs, checked missing recommends, came from rxvt to xterm to perl to readline.

urxvt has its own readline. GNU comes with another readline. Bash has a built-in readline. While /etc/inputrc works fine, it is not sure if bash's readline is totally bug-free. I got the newest version from experimental (4.4), still the same symptoms. xterm didn't make a difference. It must be related to the X part, because in TTY (bless ya) Alt-. works fine.

I have spent 6 hours today searching for the problem. I hereby give up. It's X-related, probably (99%) not BBQ-related, and I have enough of it.

Have fun squashing it. The only thing we can do is comparing versions of the dependencies (I guess the 'working' one is on something like Jessie or Ubuntu?)
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by wuxmedia » Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:16 pm

Please do give up!
It works in urxvt and other terms that's fine by me. I already purged xterm
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by wuxmedia » Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:26 pm

Cardboard:
2016-07-14-142140_1280x800_scrot.png
installing xterm totally reproduces the problem:
2016-07-14-142507_1280x800_scrot.png
FWIW: ctrl does nothing more useful for me in xterm, 'esc' works nice as meta.. FUCK XTERM
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by twodogs » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:48 pm

I have Alpha 2 installed on my laptop and not experiencing any of Wux's problems. I have installed X per MB's X11 file and then I installed i3, i3lock, i3status, urxvt, mc, moc, tty-clock, Firefox, Openjdk-8-jre (Minecraft hehe) and a few other things. I like. Will post a screenshot soon.

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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by machinebacon » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:14 pm

^ thanks for the report! sad to see the java-bloat :D
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by twodogs » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:48 pm

machinebacon wrote:^ thanks for the report! sad to see the java-bloat :D
I know. I wish there was another way. I will probably remove it and just play Minecraft on my desktop.

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Edit: I just noticed my time is off. Gotta fix! Time is actually 4 something in the afternoon (Eastern).

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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by rust collector » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:49 am

I have only tested this live, but I have not had any problems, x works, sound, network...
I will test when I get my other computer back, I hope tomorrow (later today)

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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by machinebacon » Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:35 am

Thanks gentlemen. Always remember to add a little bit of info like ("tested on my Commodore 64" or "works fine with the built-in debt card")

As for the time being off (universal time), just do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata".
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by wuxmedia » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:28 am

^ seems you are on CET? I barely noticed, same as BST (bull shit time) less noticeable than china time :)
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by machinebacon » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:41 am

^ I keep the tz setting on universal time (I have no idea if it is CET), as my tz is something like CET+7 or so. On the build PC it is now 06:40, here it's 14:40.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by wuxmedia » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:48 am

Ah yes UTC. normally the same as GMT, not at the moment though totally happy with that :)
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by machinebacon » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:54 am

Another topic butchered :D

I might simply add a README that explains the dpkg-reconfigure's after installation, so console setup, keymap, tzdata, along with some info on ssh/ssl and ceni. Anybody willing to write it? If not, I do it for Beta. Fuck it :D
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Re: Alpha Testing

Unread post by wuxmedia » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:00 am

^ how about one line in the current README?
# to set your shit up run;
sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
WTF - that doesn't work any more :( balls.
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