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MAIN EDITION: Haggis (486/686) Release Notes

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:05 pm
by machinebacon
I'm very happy (indeed) to announce the availability of LinuxBBQ "Haggis", a no-X edition that will form the base for the "Autumn" release series. Typically, this release is smaller than its predecessors.

A few days ago Pidsley and I discussed the exclusion of certain packages from the base edition. Especially the python- and lua-dependencies were (a) plank(s) in our eye(s).

In the new edition, most applications are probably even less known than the BBQ default CLI applications that were included in the last two years. "Haggis" is the opportunity to widen one's horizon and to test (and get accustomed) to even lighter CLI/curses programs.

With regards to software selection, these were the deciding factors:

- best possible functionality
- file size (package/install size)
- dependency count
- CLI or ncurses
- no normal person uses it ;)

For example, the bloated "mocp" music player got replaced by mpg123-frontends "juke" and "playmp3list" -- shaving off several dependencies and some megabytes of ISO size. The IRC client "irssi" even got three replacements, namely "ii", "tinyirc" and "f-irc", together still weighing less than "irssi" alone. "nrss" is the kiss of death for "newsbeuter", and even after adding mail client "cone", the development environment "fte" and the mighty trinity "tmux", "screen" and "dvtm" the install size of the ISO is just about 630MB.

Get the 486-bit version (231MB) at sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxbb ... o/download

Get the 686-bit non-PAE version (228MB) at sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxbb ... o/download

No 64-bit, don't even ask. If you need 64-bit, check distrowatch. tl;dr: no more 64bit, except special editions.

Username: bbq/root
password: root

The installer is hidden.

Little hint: in TTY1, press <alt> and <cursor left> or <cursor right> to scroll through the TTYs. Use TTY8 as screensaver ;)

Happy haggis!

Re: MAIN EDITION: Haggis (486/686) Release Notes

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:19 pm
by rhowaldt
Please note: THE INSTALLER IS HIDDEN

good ideas, good meat!

Re: MAIN EDITION: Haggis (486/686) Release Notes

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:11 pm
by dkeg
Nice MB. Haggis has been on my name list for a long while. Gruffalo was going to be name Haggis actually, but obviously went with the former

Re: MAIN EDITION: Haggis (486/686) Release Notes

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:40 pm
by GekkoP
Nice, an obscure tools edition.

Re: MAIN EDITION: Haggis (486/686) Release Notes

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:45 pm
by machinebacon
^ this should have taken the place of stinkin' crux ;) But yeah, I know, you need 64-bit ;)

Re: MAIN EDITION: Haggis (486/686) Release Notes

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:53 pm
by GekkoP
Oh, well, I still got space on the Pentium 4 for this one. :)

Re: MAIN EDITION: Haggis (486/686) Release Notes

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:19 pm
by bones
Beautiful, the shape of things to come!

Re: MAIN EDITION: Haggis (486/686) Release Notes

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:33 pm
by GekkoP
Just a (probably dumb) question.
I plan to install it on my main laptop, replacing the beloved Elektra just for the sake of trying something new. Does the installer, though hidden as hell, still have the fix wux told me about a separate home partition not to be formatted? (I mean, leaving blank the field to avoid the erasing)

Re: MAIN EDITION: Haggis (486/686) Release Notes

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:15 pm
by machinebacon
This I cannot tell you, because I never keep my /home. The installer is unchanged at that part. What if you resize the previous partition (after backing up /home) and try a side by side installation first?

Else, simply write a PM to wux asking for the ftp to our server, create a gekko directory there, wput your home in it, and later wget it again.

Edit: maybe somebody who doesn't care much about his old /home can test it first? If not, I will, but not today :) Usually, you need to specify a FS for /home -- and this step you can <skip>.

Re: MAIN EDITION: Haggis (486/686) Release Notes

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:16 am
by GekkoP
^ I'll try skipping the FS choice.
No need to worry, though, I got an external hard drive I can backup my /home to, it'll just take me longer to come up with a scrot. ;)

Re: MAIN EDITION: Haggis (486/686) Release Notes

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:24 am
by machinebacon
Yeah, please let me know how it goes. Good luck :)

Re: MAIN EDITION: Haggis (486/686) Release Notes

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:39 pm
by GekkoP
Installed flawlessly.
Since it is going to be my main distro I'm afraid I have to bloat it up a bit now. Back later with a scrot.

Re: MAIN EDITION: Haggis (486/686) Release Notes

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:01 pm
by machinebacon
The 486 version is being uploaded to sourceforge. Just dist-upgraded (pulls in a new kernel, the 3.14-2, as well as sysvinit updates), as of September 8, 2014.

Re: MAIN EDITION: Haggis (486/686) Release Notes

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:02 am
by p120d16y
Good shit. Just installed Haggis on this P4 machine. Setting up the few things I wanted extra on here, almost ready to pull it offline. Great stuff!

Re: MAIN EDITION: Haggis (486/686) Release Notes

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:20 pm
by jmthomas87
Been running this on my little netbook for about a week. Working great, haven't had any issues. Upgraded without a hitch and chugging right along. Once I figure out how to create a scrot, will post one.

Re: MAIN EDITION: Haggis (486/686) Release Notes

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:37 pm
by Dr_Chroot
^ Do you have X.org on Haggis already? If not, you can take a "scrot" in framebuffer by using the fbcat utility.

Code: Select all

fbcat > muhscrot
, IIRC.