Kielbasa (LinuxBBQ XFCE) RC Release News

[machinebacon]

Thanks, Rho, but I wouldn't bother with it. The file on the server is on the byte exactly the same as I have locally, and the same as I tested in VirtualBox on the scrots above.

@wux: 400kB is 4x quicker than mine ;)

[wuxmedia]

yeah, don't bother - it's bound to be my fault - you know what i'm like...
have fun tonight rhow 8)

EDIT;
third time lucky.
It's official i am a trad.
i dd'ed my usb stick to the file 8o
so obviously paardenrockvlees was copied from the usb to the xfce.iso.
shouldn't have c/p'ed from wikipedia without looking at it properly.
maybe i should go back to xp, late last night i accidentally did this as root.

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mv /* /usr/share/geany

which needless to say didn't install the filedefs i was hopin to.

[machinebacon]

Wux, I bet my dear ass that you didn't dd the stick right (or that it is broken, or that it isn't formatted) and it still has the old MATE on it. Would you do me a favour, install virtualbox-dkms and virtualbox-qt and try the ISO there?
How many MB is the ....xfce64.iso file?

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du linuxbbq-rc1-xfce64.iso 

[machinebacon]

@wux: no comment

[wuxmedia]

^ haha yup
all good in keilbasa now, looks great.
thanks for helping 8)

[machinebacon]

LinuxBBQ is pleased to announce the immediate availability of LinuxBBQ "Kielbasa i686", featuring the XFCE 4.10 Desktop Environment and the Openbox window manager as fallback. This is version RC1, a 32-bit edition based on Debian sid with the 3.6-6 towo kernel, fully compatible to Debian.

Aimed at home desktop users, "Kielbasa" comes with systemd, replacing the old and trusted SysV service manager. Non-free firmware and driver packages ensure best possible hardware detection.

Notable packages:
Iceweasel
XFCE 4.10 base applications (no "xfce4-goodies")
Thunar with thumbnail previews and archiver integration
Leafpad text editor
Geany IDE
GNOME-Mplayer frontend for mplayer2
Mirage Image viewer
gftp FTP Client
gufw Firewall (root)

username/password: bbq/bbq
root password: root

This version has no webapp integration like previous releases. Optimized for Roast Your Own, the new Kielbasa weighs only 400MB. Have a try!

Note: Please select either the XFCE Session or the Openbox session in the welcome screen.

Download link: http://linuxbbq.org/release_linuxbbq-rc1-xfce.php

Happy Roasting!

[vic]

from a live spin point of view....phiuuu! Kielbasa looks, feels & shinez more `n` better than ever, great stuff for the Xfcers,
great work machinebacon, again, for the eightytwelfth time:)

[machinebacon]

Vic, thanks a lot for testing the new spins. Glad you like them :) And yeah, this one is the DE I use on a daily basis. Gotta love XFCE.

[machinebacon]

The RC2 of Kielbasa i686 is uploaded

Changes: Kernel 3.6-10, Thunar 1.6.1, iceape replaces Iceweasel, Chatzilla replaces Xchat, Deadbeef is the default music player GUI. Minor bug in Openbox session fixed. Runs like a dream.

Download link: http://linuxbbq.org/releases/XFCE/linuxbbq-rc2-xfce.iso
md5: 2ea4210b04ed870e05c660b23552a8d9
399MB

Next up: MATE

[hinto]

@Hinto: about that wireless... could you do us a big favor and test the new Kielbasa RC2, and let us know if your wireless works out of the box? http://linuxbbq.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?p=600#p600
or other thread: http://linuxnoob.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=404

The wireless didn't work out of the box. nm-applet doesn't see the adapter.

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lspci -nnk
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h Processor Root Complex [1022:1705]
	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:059f]
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device [1002:9647]
	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:059f]
	Kernel driver in use: fglrx_pci
	Kernel modules: fglrx, radeon
00:01.1 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI BeaverCreek HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6500D and 6400G-6600G series] [1002:1714]
	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:059f]
	Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
	Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
00:04.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h Processor Root Port [1022:1709]
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport
	Kernel modules: shpchp
00:06.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h Processor Root Port [1022:170b]
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport
	Kernel modules: shpchp
00:11.0 SATA controller [0106]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [1022:7804]
	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:059f]
	Kernel driver in use: ahci
00:12.0 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson USB OHCI Controller [1022:7807] (rev 11)
	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:059f]
	Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
00:12.2 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson USB EHCI Controller [1022:7808] (rev 11)
	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:059f]
	Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
00:13.0 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson USB OHCI Controller [1022:7807] (rev 11)
	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:059f]
	Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
00:13.2 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson USB EHCI Controller [1022:7808] (rev 11)
	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:059f]
	Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
00:14.0 SMBus [0c05]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson SMBus Controller [1022:780b] (rev 13)
	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:059f]
	Kernel modules: i2c-piix4
00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson Azalia Controller [1022:780d] (rev 01)
	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:059f]
	Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
	Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
00:14.3 ISA bridge [0601]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson LPC Bridge [1022:780e] (rev 11)
	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:059f]
00:14.4 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson PCI Bridge [1022:780f] (rev 40)
00:16.0 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson USB OHCI Controller [1022:7807] (rev 11)
	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:059f]
	Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
00:16.2 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson USB EHCI Controller [1022:7808] (rev 11)
	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:059f]
	Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
00:18.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 0 [1022:1700] (rev 43)
00:18.1 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 1 [1022:1701]
00:18.2 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 2 [1022:1702]
00:18.3 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 3 [1022:1703]
	Kernel driver in use: k10temp
	Kernel modules: k10temp
00:18.4 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 4 [1022:1704]
00:18.5 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 6 [1022:1718]
00:18.6 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 5 [1022:1716]
00:18.7 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 7 [1022:1719]
01:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57785 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe [14e4:16b5] (rev 10)
	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:0605]
	Kernel driver in use: tg3
	Kernel modules: tg3
01:00.1 SD Host controller [0805]: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM57765 Memory Card Reader [14e4:16bc] (rev 10)
	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:0605]
	Kernel driver in use: sdhci-pci
	Kernel modules: sdhci-pci
01:00.2 System peripheral [0880]: Broadcom Corporation Device [14e4:16be] (rev 10)
	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:0605]
01:00.3 System peripheral [0880]: Broadcom Corporation Device [14e4:16bf] (rev 10)
	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:0605]
02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM43227 802.11b/g/n [14e4:4358]
	Subsystem: Foxconn International, Inc. Device [105b:e040]
	Kernel driver in use: wl
	Kernel modules: wl

[machinebacon]

Thanks hinto, can you try:

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modprobe -r wl b44 b43 b43legacy ssb brcmsmac
modprobe b43

I guess b43 is the one for your adapter.

Edit: it's not. The 43227 is the one *not* supported by the b43 module: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43

On http://wiki.debian.org/wl it recommends the installation of broadcom-sta-dkms

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apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') broadcom-sta-dkms
modprobe -r b44 b43 b43legacy ssb brcmsmac
modprobe wl

Aptosid shows http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... pic&t=2102 but this is from January 2012.

Question: does it work OOTB with Siduction?

It would be good to know which instructions work, so I can write a Quick help page for Wireless :) Sorry to bother you with these things.

[hinto]

^To be fair, #! doesn't see it by default. Ikey ported Jockey to SolusOS. That would be a sure-fire way of enabling wireless (after an initial wired connection)
The above dump was done using PearOS, which did recognize my adapter where I enabled it with Jockey to get it to work.
-Hinto

[machinebacon]

All right, PearOS is an Ubuntu derivate isn't it? And SolusOS with Jockey must be in Eveline. I still have that on a partition and have a look. Thanks hinto!

[wayne]

Downloaded rc2.
dd to USB stick.
going to test several computers,
running on Live mode, focus on wireless and network browsing..as a new user!

1. This is old Dell inspiron laptop, 2006 model.

Boot OK, without me doing anything on ceni, i click network applet around top right taskbar, key in wireless passphrase, and the wireless is working . :)


0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)

try to browse network files from another computer via thunar 1.6.1
cannot browse network, with error below
"Failed to open "/on".
The specified location is not supported.



2. This is a Asus laptop. with UEFI bios, but I disable it.
boot from USB stick is OK, wireless available out of the box, upon keying in passphrase, it connect to wireless and thus internet, no issue

it has atheros AR9285.

03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)


try network browsing, no, same error as in above item1.

3. This is sefl made desktop with AMD cpu and an external usb wireless dongle, model EnGenius wireless 11N

http://www.excaliberpc.com/596173/engen ... eless.html

inside it has realtek RTL8188S chip

Testing wireless, after keying in passphrase it connects to internet without issue..


Try network browse: same error as above two.

This AMD had nVidia graphic, and display is nice. Default to 1920x1080 resolution on HD monitor... :)
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)

p.s. some distros had bsod on this nVidia card :(


4. Reboot the last computer, item3. but swap usb dongle with another wireless Aztech WL 552USB

this time, the computer cannot boot.
stuck around 1seconds, to 2.x seconds for several tries.
it seems to struggle on USB device, first time hang with display showing usb (some number)
second time hang up on USB mouse.
unplug Aztech dongle, display shows it was detected, plug in again, display shows..
third time. I did not unplug Aztech USB wireless dongle, let it run itself, it hangs around 2.x second, USB ( some number) then after some time out, it cotinue with udevd (some numbers) ...modprobe, and it simply loops around many times..

[machinebacon]

Wow wayne, thanks a bunch for this!

The new Thunar 1.6.1 just came out yesterday, so I haven't had time to check what might be wrong with network browsing. Into the blue: seems related to something like gvfs. Allow a few days for checking ;)

The issue with 4.) is quite surely related to the USB port - I have similar hiccups when I have three devices hanging on the ports. You might try following:
- Start the PC with USB stick connected (and all other stuff, too) and boot into the boot menu
- Press [Tab] in the first entry
- move the cursor down and remove the "init=/bin/systemd"
- press [Enter]
It should then boot without systemd. Sometimes it helps, but it is really hit or miss.
If this works, you could revert from systemd to sysvinit (makes boot a bit slower but is better implemented)

[wayne]

Hi machinebacon,

tried 4 with your method.
YES, it boots without any issue on USB hub.

and tested both wireless USB dongles, both working :) :)

read somewhere else, people mentioned bad experience over systemd...
may be this is my first taste of trouble with it? :(

anyway, on the other desktop I installed and used rc1, although dmesg showed something like 14.x seconds, it seem the desktop is ready for use around 30 seconds, something similar to other Debian iso...

Not sure if systemd is ready .. of course I prefer to be solid and reliable implementation, I can afford to wait 30 seconds to boot :).

By the way, I tried also to select sysvinit from the boot menu, it did not boot,
same as last post: stuck at the same place: 2.x seconds, usb (some number) and after time out, it loops around forever...

[machinebacon]

Hi wayne,
thanks for the update!
Yes, that's quite the same what happens here too - every now and then the kernel doesn't want to skip over the 2 or 3 second mark - rebooting helps in 99% of the cases. But it did happen with sysvinit too, so it might also be related to udev or the kernel. I simply press the reset button and reboot (in sysvinit). In systemd I noticed problems when UUIDs change. In this case it's the easiest to wait for systemd.fsck to settle and then compare sudo blkid and /etc/fstab and search for mismatches.

Just a little info how to revert systemd to sysvinit:

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sudo apt-get install sysvinit
sudo apt-get install live-config-sysvinit # we need this for own remasters
sudo nano /etc/default/grub

scroll to the 9th line and change it to:

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GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet"

you can also replace quiet with verbose here, some people like to see what's going on
save and exit
then update initram filesystem

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sudo update-initramfs -u

and update grub

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sudo update-grub

After eeboot everything should be in place. Hope I didn't forget anything :)

[hinto]

All right, PearOS is an Ubuntu derivate isn't it? And SolusOS with Jockey must be in Eveline. I still have that on a partition and have a look. Thanks hinto!

Yeah PearOS is based on Ubuntu, and looks like OSX (a bit). I cross compile for Windows and OSX (no Linux market yet)
...and it was Eveline that had Jockey....

BTW... Kielbasa (and other BBQ options) boot amazingly fast, even from a USB.
-Hinto

[hinto]

@machinebacon

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    apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') broadcom-sta-dkms
    modprobe -r b44 b43 b43legacy ssb brcmsmac
    modprobe wl

Gives me wireless (thanks)
I did have to create /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
to make nm-applet happy so I could configure it from the liveUSB.

But we have lift off ;)
Making notes before installing.
I do miss the menus in the terminal (which terminal app is on Mother?) I installed terminator to keep me sane ;)

I also took a stab and added the precise repos from ubuntu for jockey (blaspemous, but the world didn't melt)... it didn't run of course, so Ikey did do some voodoo to get it to work in SolusOS.

-Hinto

[machinebacon]

Thanks for the update!
Yes, Solus most probably uses the Mint jockey from the MATE edition or so, no idea - haven't checked yet.

The terminal is xterm (my idea is that a mother doesn't really need a terminal, so xterm will do) - it doesn't give the traditional pop-up menu, but try Ctrl-Rightclick for some basic options.

You're right about the system-connections folder, I'll add that to the notes.