Question I see that some of the BBQ versions support acpi. This is important for me, I will install on a laptop and I'd like power saving, auto shut down when closing the lid, etc.
Forgive my noobness, but is it correct that not all versions support acpi? For instance, Oyster (I'd choose the i3wm) or Escargot (OpenBox), do they support acpi? And if not, any hints on installing?
Thanks!! I'm trying to get my head around this amazing stuff you build :)
1. acpi question
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Re: 1. acpi question
Mr. Bacon will provide more info I'm sure but I have acpi-thinkpad working with Escargot, on my x121e.
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Re: 1. acpi question
if you like i3 then have you tried threesome?
btw i believe (probaby wrong) but the powersaving/laptop lid suspend - is acpi controlled, but usually with a powermanager, like #! uses xfce powermanager.
i'm actually needing to do this with my threesome install.
as far as acpi support, i think it's enabled...on all BBQ releases.
btw i believe (probaby wrong) but the powersaving/laptop lid suspend - is acpi controlled, but usually with a powermanager, like #! uses xfce powermanager.
i'm actually needing to do this with my threesome install.
as far as acpi support, i think it's enabled...on all BBQ releases.
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Re: 1. acpi question
Threesome is 32-bit. I like to think 64-bit is faster.
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Re: 1. acpi question
not sure. big debate no clear winner.
personally the 32bit spin flies on my 64 bit machine...
if it's a flip between a 32 bit bbq and a 64bit homebrew....
but hey linux is about choices.
btw threesome release works nice with xfce4-power-manager... dont display the tray icon...at least not with a conky setup.
personally the 32bit spin flies on my 64 bit machine...
if it's a flip between a 32 bit bbq and a 64bit homebrew....
but hey linux is about choices.
btw threesome release works nice with xfce4-power-manager... dont display the tray icon...at least not with a conky setup.
Re: 1. acpi question
64-bit is only faster if you actually have a need for those extra RAMs. if you're installing a lightweight system (which is very much the case with the BBQ releases), your RAM won't be taxed so much, and you'll never come into need of those extra bits. at least, this is what i've understood.
on the other hand, if you go video-editing or doing digital music with intensive DSP or whatnot, you would faster notice these extra bits.
oh yes, and afaik only relevant in the first place if you have 4+ GB of RAM in your computer.
about acpi: i am currently running a Boner and apt-get tells me acpi isn't installed. however, this is the barebones no-X base install, so i can imagine that on any release that is a bit more bloated than this one, acpi will be there ;)
on the other hand, if you go video-editing or doing digital music with intensive DSP or whatnot, you would faster notice these extra bits.
oh yes, and afaik only relevant in the first place if you have 4+ GB of RAM in your computer.
about acpi: i am currently running a Boner and apt-get tells me acpi isn't installed. however, this is the barebones no-X base install, so i can imagine that on any release that is a bit more bloated than this one, acpi will be there ;)
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Re: 1. acpi question
Thanks Wux, I'll install Threesome tomorrow. Still, I hear Nigel Tufnell "but the other one goes to 64"
Otoh, Threesome is a great name. I can totally see myself showing off my rock star laptop to our MS-brainwashed IT department managers. "See this laptop? Runs on Debian Unstable & Experimental, which means it can and will break, which is always fun. The desktop does not have icons of course. And did I say that this spin is called Threesome? Shall we roll this out to all our 2,000 employees?" :-P
Otoh, Threesome is a great name. I can totally see myself showing off my rock star laptop to our MS-brainwashed IT department managers. "See this laptop? Runs on Debian Unstable & Experimental, which means it can and will break, which is always fun. The desktop does not have icons of course. And did I say that this spin is called Threesome? Shall we roll this out to all our 2,000 employees?" :-P
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Re: 1. acpi question
@ rhowaldt - thanks. I have 8 gb of RAM, no heavy uses planned. I will experiment
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Re: 1. acpi question
bacon will prolly roll out a 64 if theres enough weight behind... not forcing the guy.
still, i guess going for a boner apt-getting xorg* then installing i3 isn't too hard....
once you've roasted your own 8)
you'll never go back once you've gone bbq 8)
still, i guess going for a boner apt-getting xorg* then installing i3 isn't too hard....
once you've roasted your own 8)
you'll never go back once you've gone bbq 8)
Re: 1. acpi question
the position on a 64-bit version of Threesome is at this moment still undecided. that is all i have to say about it :)
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Re: 1. acpi question
point taken, 32bits is cool with me - i only have 1GB of ram so np...
as i said the bases make it easy(er) to get xorg and i3 running.
it's just the sweetness of fresh bbq'ed meat get me going 8)
as i said the bases make it easy(er) to get xorg and i3 running.
it's just the sweetness of fresh bbq'ed meat get me going 8)
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Re: 1. acpi question
@OP: ACPI shouldn't be a problem, it is provided in the repos via APT and indeed just an apt-get away. Some releases have it shipped (those with power manager), but the bare ones are without.
@64-bit threesome: probably not. My point is that (as noted correctly) a netinstall + X + i3 (or even starting with a Kielbasa base) is quick and painless and secondly, the demand for such a release is low. I would rather fulfill the original threesome plan (it was meant to be i3 + awesome = threesome) than spinning i3 on 64bit. Generally, only the base editions come in 32 and 64bit, and some special editions (like Rocks! or Mother, where it makes sense to support PCs with a modern CPU)
@64-bit threesome: probably not. My point is that (as noted correctly) a netinstall + X + i3 (or even starting with a Kielbasa base) is quick and painless and secondly, the demand for such a release is low. I would rather fulfill the original threesome plan (it was meant to be i3 + awesome = threesome) than spinning i3 on 64bit. Generally, only the base editions come in 32 and 64bit, and some special editions (like Rocks! or Mother, where it makes sense to support PCs with a modern CPU)
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Re: 1. acpi question
In your case it would definitely make sense to run 64bit and/or a 32bit with PAE support enabled. This means installing the PAE kernel if your base is 32bit:Potatohead wrote:@ rhowaldt - thanks. I have 8 gb of RAM, no heavy uses planned. I will experiment
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bbq@bbq$ apt-cache search PAE
linux-headers-3.2.0-4-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.2.0-4-686-pae
linux-headers-3.2.0-4-rt-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.2.0-4-rt-686-pae
linux-image-3.2.0-4-486 - Linux 3.2 for older PCs
linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae - Linux 3.2 for modern PCs
linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae-dbg - Debugging symbols for Linux 3.2.0-4-686-pae
linux-image-3.2.0-4-rt-686-pae - Linux 3.2 for modern PCs, PREEMPT_RT
linux-image-3.2.0-4-rt-686-pae-dbg - Debugging symbols for Linux 3.2.0-4-rt-686-pae
xen-linux-system-3.2.0-4-686-pae - Xen system with Linux 3.2 on modern PCs (meta-package)
linux-headers-2.6-686-pae - Header files for Linux 686-pae configuration (dummy package)
linux-headers-686-pae - Header files for Linux 686-pae configuration (meta-package)
linux-headers-rt-686-pae - Header files for Linux rt-686-pae configuration (meta-package)
linux-image-2.6-686-pae - Linux for modern PCs (dummy package)
linux-image-486 - Linux for older PCs (meta-package)
linux-image-686-pae - Linux for modern PCs (meta-package)
linux-image-rt-686-pae - Linux for modern PCs (meta-package), PREEMPT_RT
xen-linux-system-686-pae - Xen system with Linux for modern PCs (meta-package)
nvidia-kernel-2.6-686-pae - NVIDIA kernel module for Linux (686-pae transitional package)
nvidia-kernel-3.2.0-4-686-pae - NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 3.2.0-4-686-pae
nvidia-kernel-686-pae - NVIDIA kernel module for Linux (686-pae flavor)
linux-headers-3.4-5.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.4-5.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.5-2.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.5-2.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.5-3.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.5-3.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.5-4.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.5-4.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.5-4.towo.1-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.5-4.towo.1-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.6-0.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.6-0.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.6-1.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.6-1.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.6-10.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.6-10.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.6-2.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.6-2.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.6-3.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.6-3.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.6-4.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.6-4.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.6-5.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.6-5.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.6-6.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.6-6.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.6-7.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.6-7.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.6-8.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.6-8.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.6-9.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.6-9.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.7-0.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.7-0.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.7-1.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.7-1.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-35-3.5-5.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.5-5.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-35-3.5-6.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.5-6.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-35-siduction-686-pae - Linux header for siduction on modern PCs with pae support
linux-headers-siduction-686-pae - Linux header for siduction on modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.4-5.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.4 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.5-2.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.5 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.5-3.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.5 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.5-4.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.5 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.5-4.towo.1-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.5 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.6-0.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.6 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.6-1.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.6 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.6-10.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.6 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.6-2.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.6 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.6-3.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.6 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.6-4.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.6 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.6-5.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.6 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.6-6.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.6 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.6-7.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.6 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.6-8.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.6 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.6-9.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.6 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.7-0.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.7 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.7-1.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.7 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-35-3.5-5.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.5 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-35-3.5-6.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.5 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-35-siduction-686-pae - Linux image for siduction on modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-siduction-686-pae - Linux image for siduction on modern PCs with pae support
linux-headers-3.5-rc4.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.5-rc4.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.5-rc5.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.5-rc5.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.5-rc6.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.5-rc6.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.5-rc7.towo-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.5-rc7.towo-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.6-rc5.towo.1-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.6-rc5.towo.1-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.6-rc6.towo.1-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.6-rc6.towo.1-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.6-rc6.towo.2-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.6-rc6.towo.2-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.6-rc7.towo.1-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.6-rc7.towo.1-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.7-rc8.towo.1-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.7-rc8.towo.1-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-3.7-rc8.towo.2-experimental-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.7-rc8.towo.2-experimental-686-pae
linux-headers-3.7-rc8.towo.2-siduction-686-pae - Header files for Linux 3.7-rc8.towo.2-siduction-686-pae
linux-headers-experimental-686-pae - Linux header for siduction on modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.5-rc4.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.5 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.5-rc5.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.5 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.5-rc6.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.5 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.5-rc7.towo-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.5 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.6-rc5.towo.1-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.6 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.6-rc6.towo.1-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.6 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.6-rc6.towo.2-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.6 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.6-rc7.towo.1-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.6 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.7-rc8.towo.1-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.7 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.7-rc8.towo.2-experimental-686-pae - Linux 3.7 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-3.7-rc8.towo.2-siduction-686-pae - Linux 3.7 for modern PCs with pae support
linux-image-experimental-686-pae - Linux image for siduction on modern PCs with pae support
This will bring you two entries in GRUB: with and without PAE. You would then boot into the PAE kernel and remove the 'old' one with sudo kernel-remover
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