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Hi there,

my new system is installed and it runs fine.

So only one question is unsolved.

How does the filemanager thunar automount usb devices for unprivileged users?

Usbmount, udisks2, gvfs-packages are installed.

Thank you for an answer.

eat64sgs

You need 1) consolekit installed
and 2) a magic line in your xinitrc:

exec dbus-launch startxfce4 --with-ck-launch

Hello machinebacon,

thanks for your answer.

Unfortunately it doesn't work.

I get following message:

'Not authorized to perform operation
(polkit authority not available and caller is not uid 0).'

Openbox is my windowmanager. The magig line in my .xinitrc is:

'exec dbus-launch --with-ck-launch --exit-with-session openbox-session'

What can I do?

eat64sgs

Hi eat62sgs,

then you need the magic in /etc/polkit-1 and in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions

http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=34355 (achtung achtung, long read)

Before you waste your time, try adding thunar-volman (and log in again) -- maybe this fixes it already. Though, I remember it was a serious PITA to fool policykit/consolekit/dbus/whatchacallit

If this also fails, you have four alternatives:
- use "sudo automount" to mount them all
- create entries in your /etc/fstab for you USB drives
- install pmount and run it as root like "sudo pmount /dev/sdc"
- install systemd and let it take care of the elevated privileges
- use a login manager (lightdm), however, I don't remember/know if this will fix it (still)

I would simply do it manually with pmount. If the USB drive is one you often use, stick its entry into /etc/fstab

Sorry
/offtopic
Seriously Julius how can you all this o.O
Mightily impressed!

/offtopic

cheerio
simon

Oh yeah,

a lot of work.

I will see how I solve it and rewrite.

eat64sgs

It has always been problematic, if you check google and enter the error message you'll see that it happens everywhere from Arch to Zenwalk.

machinebacon wrote:
I would simply do it manually with pmount. If the USB drive is one you often use, stick its entry into /etc/fstab

^ This and I *personally* wouldn't use Thunar on a non-bloated system.
Thunar comes *standard* with things like the XFCE4 Panel etc.
Sure you can disable some things, but if you're in doubt you could be hooked up with some stuff that you don't need.
I don't mean to be offensive, but Thunar isn't that lightweight compared to other graphical alternatives (pcmanfm or rox-filer).

To each his own, but we have to get a fact straight: Thunar has ho dependency on xfce4-panel or any other 'module' of the xfce4 desktop, apart from a shared library (that is needed for a optional integration of notification daemon or volume management applet)
Of course the best is to simply use coreutils.

I'm glad that it isn't so with linuxbbq, but I'm 100% sure that you'll get the xfce4-panel with the standard 'sudo apt-get install thunar' in a netinstall with Ubuntu ;)

^ likely something to do with the apt prefs. --no-install-recommends as default in BBQ. ;)

well at least this is a good example of the amount of additional stuff dumped on your system as soon as you step away from the commandline, even for something as simple as file management. to each his own, indeed, and you use what makes you most comfortable.

wux is right. xfce4-panel is a recommended package for thunar in both ubuntu and debian.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/thunar
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/thunar

One more reason to disable recommends.

"apt-cache depends thunar" shows the full list. BBQ is set up to not install recommends. This is the BBQ forums, so I was under the impression the OP will use LinuxBBQ ;)

My apologies, it was more that I stay away from such things because of the dependencies that other ditros seems to like ;)
Ofcourse it's each of his/her own (that's why I put a *personally* in the first message), but I tried to be helpfull to the OP.
Thunar isn't bad, but I thought it can be handy to call other lighter graphical filemanagers.
I don't expect that a Nautilus or Thunar user to go straight to the coreutils (there are exeptions), that was more or less the idea behind the post.

no worries.

Hello all,

thank you for your posts.

I think, my problem is not Thunar. I get the same message when I try to mount a usb stick with gvfs-mount or gigolo.

I can't also shutdown my system without password or with the login manager lightdm. I have always no permissions. So I can only shutdown with sudo.

Perhaps I need a special Policykit rule?

Have anybody ideas?

eat64sgs

Is policykit-1-gnome is installed?

Also see https://gist.github.com/wooptoo/4013294 ... 92d6a2bddb

Yes, it is.

On another Unstable system om my desltop PC there is no polkit rule, no udev rule and usbmount is not installed. And mounting works and shutdown from login manager (lightdm) too.

I also edited /etc/sudoers, /etc/shutdown.allow and created a rule in /etc/sudoers.d. But nothing helped to solve the problem.

eat64sgs

Okay, so this is the (working) result - on top of a noX base install I first and added this line at the bottom of ~/.xinitrc:
With startx I got to an ugly desktop, XFCE4 asked me if I want a panel, I picked the default one and opened a terminal:
opened Thunar, clicked Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Enable Volume Management -> Clicked the blue
"Configure" (this opens thunar-volmand) and ticked the boxes for automatic mount etc.

then I rebooted, logged in, used startx again, and got to the desktop. Plugged in the USB drive and this happened:
I did not install xfdesktop4 and icons because I just wanted to make this shit work quickly. Adding it will make no difference in function. Power management (shutdown, reboot, hibernate, suspend) all work perfectly from the menu. No problems on the way. Good luck.

Nota bene:

xfce4-session needs x11-xserver-utils that pulls in gcc5
ck-launch-session is coming from consolekit
libpam-ck-connector needs libpam-runtime
policykit-1 needs dbus and also pulls in systemd via libpam-systemd
gvfs-* pulls in libgtk-3-0, just like policykit-1-gnome

There is no need for a lightdm, but it would work if you add one on top, for whatever reason.

A personal note:

Quite a lot of rubbish for something that can be scripted in bash and executed automatically. But that's just my opinion. And the reason we made LinuxBBQ.
I would also appreciate if you - as sign of respect and friendliness towards other users on this forums - post an introduction here: http://www.linuxbbq.org/bbs/viewforum.php?f=7