.bashrc in tty not active [SOLVED]

[wuxmedia]

so i like to muck around in the tty (who doesn't) and i've noticed for a few releases the aliases don't work right away,

so i

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source .bashrc

and everythings normal.
is this normal - i thought it was read after (any) login?
terminal emulator in X works right away.

[machinebacon]

Let's source it in ~./profile then, add:

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. /home/wux/.bashrc

to source the user's bashrc (you get the idea)

[wuxmedia]

thats what i dont get;

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wuxmedia@asspire:~$ cat .profile 
# ~/.profile: executed by the command interpreter for login shells.
# This file is not read by bash(1), if ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login
# exists.
# see /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/startup-files for examples.
# the files are located in the bash-doc package.

# the default umask is set in /etc/profile; for setting the umask
# for ssh logins, install and configure the libpam-umask package.
#umask 022

# if running bash
if [ -n "$BASH_VERSION" ]; then
    # include .bashrc if it exists
    if [ -f "$HOME/.bashrc" ]; then
	. "$HOME/.bashrc"
    fi
fi

# set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then
    PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"
fi

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actually reading the comments .bashrc is -not- read because .bash_profile exists (to take us directly to startx, which i like)
so I guess i could delete .bash_profile, or maybe add the source to it.
OK i understand now

[machinebacon]

Yes, both should work as expected then.

The .profile file is good if you want to start an application without having xinit installed (for example CLIt starts tmux there, or Bloat starts the roastyourown script there, IIRC)

[rhowaldt]

@wux: it is not very...logical how all this works, is it :) (i never enjoyed the whole profile/bash_profile/bashrc-construction...)

[machinebacon]

It makes sense if you consider that bash is not always the standard shell (sh or dash rather), so the .bash_profile is something that is preferred when bash is installed, and if not, then .profile is read. Makes sense once you have zsh as your default shell and notice how little impact .bash* on the whole construct has :D

[wuxmedia]

i deleted .bash_profile.
thats works.

yeah, mostly switching to ZSH these days. is .profile read by zsh? or isn't it .zprofile.

on Boner i just dumped my aliases into .zshrc.local (even more confusing) and removed tmux from the one of the .bash things. when i su -, it goes to tmux 8)
it's kinda logical, just relies on a special logic, which i evidently dont have 8)

[machinebacon]

It's .zprofile, yes, and .bash_profile is ignored then. It does read, however, .profile, IIRC - though don't write me letters on this, I'm not 100% sure.
Some distros link /bin/sh to /bin/bash, and Ubuntu uses /bin/dash if I remember right.

[rhowaldt]

@bacon: ah yes, i get it...it does make sense. i suppose i am a shell-racist... a shellist? completely forgot about the option for a different shell...