Looking to make a distro but i am a noob and want to learn?

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Looking to make a distro but i am a noob and want to learn?

Unread post by kidx » Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:16 pm

I am looking to make a distro based on BBQ called Inferno but i need help i am new and not good at programming I wanna use lxde the latest from there site and also wanan have these programs included.

Internet
skype
chromium
icedove
vinager
filezilla

Games
steam
xonotic
warsow
urbanterror
red eclipse

Emulators
sega/cd/mega drive/gensis
Fecu-Nes
N64
Dolphin emu
Mame
Atari8000

Screen capturing/livecasting
Vokoscreen
avconv/ffmpeg

with synaptic package manager
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Unread post by machinebacon » Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:22 pm

Hello, welcome to the grill!

I guess you mean the "old" LXDE using gtk2 and not the proposed LXDE-qt, right?

Well, firstly decide if you want 32 or 64 bit. For 32 bit, pick the "Coal" release (you can also start with "Bloat" and add LXDE on top)

I would recommend the i686 version (32 bit) because you want Skype, and Skype is problematic in 64-bit.

For what it's worth, install the base system on a partition of at least 15, better 20GB, then make sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and then suck the programs (sudo apt-get install <names of programs>)

Probably you want a display manager (slim, lightdm, gdm3)

Set a nice wallpaper, and then copy the /home/USERNAME/ folder to /etc/skel

Finally, run 'sudo bbqsnapshot'

Don't be disappointed if the first snapshots don't work as expected. It takes some time to tune the system. I'll help you if you get stuck - first do as I told you ;) You can later install this test system, and fine tune it again, and snapshot it again, and so on.
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Re: Looking to make a distro but i am a noob and want to lea

Unread post by kidx » Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:26 pm

I have over 4 gig ram will this 32bit work for that or no? also all i do is intall it and follow instruction correct casue i have downloaded every single damn version fo your bbq to find the best on i thnk the lxde for untill i add LXDE legit to it lol.

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Unread post by machinebacon » Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:34 pm

Yeah, LXDE is a damned good base for stuff like this.

You should think of the future users, if you want to redistribute your ISO - will they have 64bit capabilities, should the stuff work on older (pre 2008) computers too, etc. If the apps don't require 64bit capabilities and more than 4GB RAM, simply get Coal i686. We install the PAE kernel, later.

If you really want to do it professionally, take the Bloat64 version, which will boot into an installer and after reboot it will run a package selector. You will have nothing else than a snappy base. Pick LXDE as desktop environment first, and no display manager. Modify the .xinitrc to look like:

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#!/bin/sh
xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources
xsetroot -cursor_name left_ptr &
xbindkeys
exec startlxde
and also copy this file at once to /etc/skel

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sudo cp .xinitrc /etc/skel/
then enter

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startx
and work from inside LXDE, downloading the apps you want.

If you are brave and you want 64bit definitely, pick the Trollinger 64 base, but it will probably (!) break during a dist-upgrade, as it's already half year old.

By all means, keep asking ;)
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Re: Looking to make a distro but i am a noob and want to lea

Unread post by kidx » Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:42 pm

I dont want anything to break though you on irc at all maybe we can chat there or you have a mic or somthing voice chat or have teamveiwer or remote desktop you can show me first what you do then i can learn faster or you up for that?

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Unread post by machinebacon » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:23 pm

Good Lord.

Well no, I have a bit of life outside the grill, too - apart from the fact that the Great Firewall of China blocks all IRC connections.

Firstly, you will have to be patient - not because we are fucktards who answer slowly, but because you will first need to set up a sane, clean and working base system from which *no* packages have been removed.

Install the base edition (Coal, Bloat, Trollinger, XFCE Base, Cameltoe, Boner, Virgin) on a partition of around 20GB size and boot into the clean system. Do a full system update and dist-upgrade.
As next, come back again here and report ;)

And finally, because you will probably need my/our help in the future, bring with you some manners. Please, thank you, stuff like this. I don't have a problem with proper punctuation, by the way. Just saying ;) I'm the most harmless guy here....
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Re: Looking to make a distro but i am a noob and want to lea

Unread post by bones » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:44 pm

As a noob you would do well to learn Linux basics first, Debian specifics next, use a BBQ base as MB suggested, and do lots of trying and failing. And THEN ask questions when you get stuck. Some helpful links:

http://brunolinux.com/
http://www.tldp.org/
http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
http://www.linux-tutorial.info/
http://bash.cyberciti.biz/guide/Main_Page
http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/
http://oreilly.com/openbook/debian/book/index.html

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Re: Looking to make a distro but i am a noob and want to lea

Unread post by kidx » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:58 pm

I am trying to get the nag of bloat64 every one does everything different and its kinda weird casue startx is not working as it say no cooma found?

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Unread post by machinebacon » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:00 pm

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xinit
then create the .xinitrc file as above
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Re: Looking to make a distro but i am a noob and want to lea

Unread post by kidx » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:43 pm

I am going with the lxde version 64bit that bloat is too awkward and nothing is working right so ill use lxde version and go from there sorry to be a pain and a noob i am new.


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Unread post by kidx » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:59 pm

why can I install LXDE update add what i want and delete what i dont wnat and bbqsnapshot it would that nnot be easier or no?

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Unread post by machinebacon » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:10 pm

Yes, as I have written before. Do it like you think. You'll see if it works for you or not.
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Unread post by kidx » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:15 pm

Also your right 32bit is teh way to go for me ill have to use it even know i have more ram also i like the default KDE its awsome light and need to test for gaming and stuff thansk for all the hard work i really like tis i am gona do a reveiw on this.

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Unread post by machinebacon » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:17 pm

Side note: KDE is not really a good idea for gaming because of the compositor (if enabled) and the heavy dependency count. Go with pure Openbox or max with XFCE.
Thanks!
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Unread post by kidx » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:19 pm

What about LXDE not KDE i dont wanna go KDE yuck lol.Also how do i change teh wallpapers and i tihnk this is using lightdm also I am gona change the icon and stuff i will try to remove all bbq stuff so i dont us your copyrighted logos but some stuff may say as this is made from bbq I hope thats ok with you.

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Unread post by machinebacon » Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:15 pm

Copyrighted logos? Man, this is Linux, not fucking Windows.
Of course LXDE, you brought up KDE in your previous post, good sir.

Put the wallpaper in /usr/share/wallpapers and set them globally from there.
And lightdm, there are config files, check the /etc/lightdm/ folder
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Unread post by kidx » Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:20 pm

sorry my bad thansk for the help you are getting a roasted reveiw man ina blazing inferno hehe.

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Unread post by kidx » Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:57 pm

How do I edit what the installer says or do you want me to leave it?

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Re: Looking to make a distro but i am a noob and want to lea

Unread post by DebianJoe » Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:00 pm

This is the best thread ever.

I look forward to !nf3rn0-super gaming edition. Bacon, please keep helping this guy out. He just needs you to explain bash and he'll be ready to go. :D

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