Tell me more about killX-nietzsche-64 please

[Potatohead]

Hi all, I saw the advertisment ;-) for

nietsche

. Seems like a great idea - a distro-independent Git based eh... distro ?

Is there anybody out there who knows more about this? If you go for "Slackware" like builds, there is no dependendency resolution, right?

I see some Funtoo influence as well, right? (Git based)

Actually I am totally noob and puzzled, but intrigued...... tell me all!

[DebianJoe]

There's 99 ways to make a system, but apt ain't one. ;)

It's the essence of brutality wrapped up in a nice stage3. Figure out HOW you want to make stuff, and do homework on dependencies before you start a new program install. I haven't checked into all of the ways to install new stuff yet, but the git/slack style don't resolve deps for you.

I know that Pidsley and me have played some with it. It's linux, pure and simple. It is not the most gentle system ever made, so use at your own discretion.

[Potatohead]

hey Joe, thanks. Seems like a fun project, I was trying to fond where it sits between Gentoo, Slack, LFS and Arch, but that does not matter, it its all good. :)

[machinebacon]

Hi Earthapple,
killX is indeed not gentle and not 'user-friendly' like the APT-based distros, or anything that makes a dependency resolution for you. It's basically a gentoo in Slack (not Arch, but I will make pacman-g2 from Frugalware work for it in the next version). The aim is NOT to use X, ever, and to do 90% of your tasks in the tty (the remaining 10% for watching Flash videos - won't work). Git-based, because there are several tools that get packages from git(hub) directly from the developers, and not patched/branded versions like in other distros. The "package managers" are there to make possible upgrades of the base stuff easier, for this I have picked slackware's pkgtools, but actually it is not needed to 'dist-upgrade´ for a while. killX is very much in alpha, and probably will always stay there. It's something to teach the user how comfortable life actually is in all those comfort-zone distros, and it also shows how damned stable stuff in Debian's Sid-country is, even with experimentals enabled.
It is not for beginners, and surely not for fanbois, and there are many source-based distros that are better (gentoo, funtoo, the source-mage derivatives, Void, ...). Before somebody goes through LFS, though, he or she can try killX which takes away the hours setting up a broken base system.
If you enable GPM, you can switch to tty2 and tty3 for real terminal-window-managers (Twin, Viper), so click-and-point is possible.

[wuxmedia]

Before somebody goes through LFS, though, he or she can try killX which takes away the hours setting up a broken base system.

thats me.
i'm getting wlan0 to work.... atm 8)

[machinebacon]

su -
dhcpcd

or
su -
killx

that's basically the bbq CLI menu for killX

[Potatohead]

It IS source based, right? Binaries are bloat.

[machinebacon]

yes and no
the slackware tarballs are binaries, but the stuff you download via the sbopkg, emerge, bower and slackyd are sources. sbopkg can be set to download from git, by the way.

[Potatohead]

How about the Nix packagemanager? nixos.org "Nix is a purely functional package manager. This means that it can ensure that an upgrade to one package cannot break others, that you can always roll back to previous version, that multiple versions of a package can coexist on the same system, and much more."

I don't gave the skills to implement it but it sounds GREAT, right?, for inclusion in Nietsche :-)

[machinebacon]

The problem with having multiple versions of the same file is no problem in killX.

[machinebacon]

Another thing is, that I have on purpose not opened a forums or anything related to killX. ;) If you want to change it (the release), do it.

[Potatohead]

OK Machinebacon, fair enough. And thanks to the whole crew for the work!