From father to mother?

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From father to mother?

Unread post by hinto » Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:41 pm

Is there a way to say, dist-upgrade from siduction to Mother?
I currently have a production siduction box where I suppose I could re-image to mother, but since I push the envelope (and it's SID) I think I should be able to dist-upgrade the mother, given the appropriate sources.list (or sources.list.d). Is there a place this is located?

And for bonus points, is there a script (like #! has) that can reset the desktop to a "default" state, like when you do a squeaky-clean install?

Thanks for any info.

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Re: From father to mother?

Unread post by machinebacon » Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:45 pm

Yes, nearly and nearby :)

A dist-upgrade to another desktop flavour is fixed by metapackages from the linuxbbq repos. They are in the making, right now there's only a Kielbasa metapackage (meta, artwork and themes) for the users that come from a netinstall/Base. The complete metapackage archive is planned to be up on the server by early 2013 (ETA first week of January), so you will have to be a bit patient. But it's high on the agenda. FWIW the repo entry for /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bbq.list is

deb http://linuxbbq.org/repos/apt/debian sid main

I'm in the middle of populating the repos, there's not much to see yet.

As for the script, I don't know how #! handles it. To get the desktop back to the default state, you simply copy the /etc/skel (as it is) to /home/$USER/ or create a completely new user. Is this answer good enough? :)
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Re: From father to mother?

Unread post by hinto » Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:55 pm

^ that's pretty much how it does it... tho, does dist-upgrade overwrite /etc/skel?
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Re: From father to mother?

Unread post by machinebacon » Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:28 pm

No, not the skel. Certain scripts overwrite the /etc/ files (/etc/issue being one of them every now and then, or /etc/bash - guess it depends on major version changes or serious issues), but I can't remember a situation that skel was overwritten. Would be quite an uncomfortable situation :)
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Re: From father to mother?

Unread post by hinto » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:11 pm

Right... so I'd need a way to snag the distro defaults, after a dist-upgrade.
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Re: From father to mother?

Unread post by machinebacon » Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:17 pm

Sounds like a distro-defaults-bbq package then. I'll look into it tomorrow ;)
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Re: From father to mother?

Unread post by hinto » Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:24 pm

Nice...
And it keeps on getting better ;)
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Re: From father to mother?

Unread post by hinto » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:15 am

Hey...
I just booted up mother on my laptop, but I get no sound from my Flash (in my browser). I know I have both digital and analog audio on my laptop, but I saw only one device in the mixer.

I'm ready to install, but I want to make sure I haven't missed something obvious.
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Re: From father to mother?

Unread post by machinebacon » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:35 am

Hi hinto,

please open a terminal and run 'alsamixer' then press F5 to display all channels, and/or F6 to select the other sound card.
Another idea is: run 'fixsnd' in terminal (passwrd: bbq)
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Re: From father to mother?

Unread post by hinto » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:43 am

nice... I installing on the laptop...
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Re: From father to mother?

Unread post by hinto » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:16 pm

Still stuggling a bit with wireless, after a dist-upgrade.
I re-installed the broadcom stuff (as mentioned in the other thread) and the modules rebuilt for the new kernel... and now NetworkManager won't see the wireless:
here's my /etc/network/interfaces.

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# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

	allow-hotplug eth0
	iface eth0 inet 

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet
I suppose I need to add wlan0?
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Re: From father to mother?

Unread post by machinebacon » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:42 pm

Ah, the 43227, right...
Honestly, no idea for now. My guess is that the other modules are not removed. Can you try and blacklist b43, brcmsmac and bcma to prevent them from blocking wl? (http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drive ... en_drivers)

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echo "blacklist drivername" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
also try killing the killswitch:

rfkill list
rfkill unblock all

wrt to the "missing" entry in /e/n/i: no, wlan should not be put in there if you use network-manager.
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Re: From father to mother?

Unread post by hinto » Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:09 pm

No luck.
As a side note, I did sucessfully get wireless when using the liveUSB (after installing the drive mentioned on the other thread)
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Re: From father to mother?

Unread post by hinto » Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:13 pm

my wireless (that I'm have trouble with):

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lspci -nnk |grep net
01:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57785 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe [14e4:16b5] (rev 10)
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Re: From father to mother?

Unread post by machinebacon » Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:19 pm

I'm really not much of a help when it comes to Broadcom. Is there a finding for
find /lib/modules/* |grep wl.ko
You should have the previous kernel, can you boot in there and see if wifi works?

Edit: saw your lspci, thanks. Writing you in a moment
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Re: From father to mother?

Unread post by machinebacon » Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:32 pm

hinto,

that's the output for the Ethernet adapter. Can you grep for Broadcom? Then you should get another result along with the ethernet.
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Re: From father to mother?

Unread post by hinto » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:24 pm

find /lib/modules/* |grep wl.ko
/lib/modules/3.7-1.towo-siduction-amd64/updates/dkms/wl.ko
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Re: From father to mother?

Unread post by hinto » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:55 pm

OK...
Now back from Christmas and New Years....
Still wanting to update my siduction to linuxBBQ.

I had marginal success on the Acer laptop install... but Desktops are more willing to accept a new roast.

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Re: From father to mother?

Unread post by machinebacon » Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:25 pm

Welcome back hinto.

You're not forgotten, I just have my (sorry) ass full of work in all four dimensions, also in real life :)

Happy 2013! Keep on rolling!
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Re: From father to mother?

Unread post by hinto » Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:29 pm

No worries...
I took the opportunity to hop my laptop to Fuduntu.
After wrestling with the grub editor (it occasionally lost it's caret and edit point) I was finally able to install the ATI graphics (I couldn't run the GUI until I did) and used jockey for the wireless.....

The bottom line is that once the hop was made (after ubiquity on another distro toasted a previous ext4 partition), I'm comfortable hopping on the laptop. It is a different beast than the desktop.

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