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Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by Options » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:31 pm

I've noticed a high preference to one editor or another, etc. I'm using LeafPad and Terminator. What would you recommend and why?
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Re: Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by GekkoP » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:41 pm

Well, if you look at the information right under the profile picture you'll see what everyone uses everyday. :)

As for the why:
- st: because I'm a shameless suckless fanboy. Before that I've been with urxvt for a long while.
- emacs: because I'm a shameless DebianJoe fanboy. Seriously, since I got my hands on it, it's been a long, happy journey.

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Re: Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by rust collector » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:46 pm

If you like using leafpad, and terminator... use that!

I would try an editor that works if your x does not, just in case...
My preferred editor is nano, pretty much because it is included in most debian systems, and it is easy to use.

As for the terminal... Terminator is pretty cool, but I feel it is too slow.
I am not sure what i would recommend there, I just use urxvt, and like it, but it is just a window I can type stuff into...

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Re: Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by DebianJoe » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:47 pm

...oh, you did not open this can of worms.

Ok, here goes: Emacs and stterm in X/emacs-nox and fbterm outside of X.

Reasons: stterm is simple, and by that I mean it's not filled with complex abstractions (such as the split term in Terminator...why not just open a couple of terminal emulators if you're using a wm in X? Plus, tmux is killer for working outside of X, ssh sessions, etc.)

Now, emacs. I do some lisp programming. Since emacs is really just a lisp interpreter, I can make it do some pretty neat things. It has sensible code definitions, and does a magnificent job of dealing with things like Kernel formatted C, auto-indenting brackets, interpreting Python and indenting functions to sane levels.

I also use it for irc (erc), checking my email (wanderlust), a cli file manager (dired), a web-browser (emacs-w3m), a scheme interpreter and matcher (slime + gnu_guile), a bash terminal shell for piping into files for editing (eshell), auto updating plugins when changes are made at the development level (el-get), etc.

It might save me some typing time to just point you to THIS thread where I go into some better detail as to what I do with it.
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Re: Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by bones » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:59 pm

Nano, because it's pretty ubiquitous, and it's simple for me. As for terminal, mostly urxvt, but whatever is available in whatever I'm using is good. Frequently it's just tmux in a no-X/tty session.

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Re: Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by kexolino » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:05 pm

urxvt, pretty much because it's light, and vim, because I once started using it for the lulz, and then fell in love with the way it works (keybindings, plugins, normal/insert/visual mode, and all that). Now I use vim style keybindings in the applications that can do it.

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Re: Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by Options » Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:05 pm

Now I believe I see the big deal with Emacs. Gonna give it a shot when I run out of things to do, see if it's for me. I've asked this because I'm trying things, seeing exactly what fits me.
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Re: Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by rhowaldt » Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:56 pm

i use Geany because i only live in the CLI parttime :)
urxvt for uhh dunno why anymore. like it, i guess.
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Re: Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by wuxmedia » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:06 pm

I'm happy I can use nano at work, Vi if I have to, but I should learn it - as it default on all work installs.
Totally agree with rust about learning something outside of X, once you're in a broken computer needing to edit a file to bring it back, you will be happy - at least how to save and quit in nano - actually that's pretty much all I know 8)

urxvt - because most of the pretty colours schemes are in .Xresource format and it does native transparency that I just about understand.
Plus it can do hyperlinks OOTB.
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Re: Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by dkeg » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:43 pm

Vim, urxvt

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Re: Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by machinebacon » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:43 am

I take anything I can get my hands on :looks lasciviously:

Terminal, it is usually some kind of rxvt. Actually I take the default one, as long as it is not a libvte-based one (so _not_ gnome-terminal, terminator, sakura, lxterminal or anything like this)

For a quick and dirty editing, it is nano. If I am in a GUI :looks lasciviously: and I open up leafpad :looks lasciviously: I only use it for easier partial copy-pasting on the laptop without mouse. So, it happens extremely seldom.
In a TTY (I know you pronounce it 'titty') :look lasciviously: I end up with tmux, and if I start writing something, I open up emacs. If I just want to edit a line, it's nano.
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Re: Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by DebianJoe » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:30 am

Yes, it's probably worth noting that I use nano for when I'm like "I need to comment out this one line," and Emacs for when I'm like "I need to comment out 27 lines consecutively, replace them with something totally different, and then recompile the program that they affect and push changes to git. I use vim for when I'm thinking "Man, I should probably use vim so I don't forget how to save and close a file in vim." ;)

Emacs and vim are really designed as old-school IDEs, so they're good at what they were made for while they may be a bit much for just basic editing. Just to really throw a wrench in things: some of the time, if I'm just changing one line in a file...I'll use cat, sed, some awk aliases I have in zsh, regex, and redirects. There is no reason to do this other than "It's fun."
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Re: Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by machinebacon » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:57 am

I agree with Joe here. If Emacs, for example, is running all the time, and you actually do all your stuff there inside, it would be quite bullshit to leave the environment to fire up vim. Certain things are not 100% perfect in nano (though I like their 'new' kill/yank function, which allows multiple lines). I guess it's really mostly about what the user has got used to. Something like an automatized behavior, like if you use "more" or "most" or "less", it just simply falls into the hand. If I want to check the source of a script, I nearly automatically enter "nano", because I've done it thousands of times already. Once I replaced nano with pico or nano-tiny, and it was very strange to enter "nano-tiny" or "pico" respectively. "bash: nano: command not found" :) Of course this is different if you are in a GUI environment all the time, you just select the default one in "Applications -> Text Editor" or whatever. There are not many #!ers who use dmenu, especially since dmenu OOTB does not open terminal tools inside of a terminal.
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Re: Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by elixir » Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:49 am

I used to only use Geany and Terminator, but once I switched to the window manager i3 I started using other ones. So now I prefer urxvt terminal and nano as my editor.
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Re: Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by machinebacon » Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:55 am

Elixir got barbecued :) Now get yourself:

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sudo apt-get install emacs24-nox
and have fun reading the tutorial ;) This is the CLI version, so you can use it 1:1 in a framebuffer or TTY.
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Re: Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by franksinistra » Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:07 am

i use urxvt and vim ( i really like emacs too, especially when combined with conkeror. Very useful to replace firebug)
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Re: Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by RandomCharacter » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:30 pm

I don't care much about terminals, I just use whatever the installation starts.

I usually use vim as if it was vi. However, in my Spring 2014.2 installation, I installed nvi, a clone of the real vi.

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Re: Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by Options » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:39 pm

Definitely got some good ideas. High quality responses. +1.
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Re: Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by ivanovnegro » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:16 pm

You know, I have this OCD thing going on and moved the topic to /dev/null where it just looks better because it is not a support question. ;)

I use vim. It is a bit what Kexo said. Once I tried it and fell in love with the key bindings and its default behavior and never looked back. Before I used more or less nano.

Urxvt because I simply prefer it to anything else. It reads my colors, has native and fake transparency (though I do not care), has a daemon mode, reads properly and ootb UTF-8 characters, so my damn Cyrillic fonts look nice e.g. because I use the terminal the whole day for all my preferred ncurses apps.

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Re: Your preferred text editor and terminal?

Unread post by 4eyes » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:22 pm

Gedit - cos I am a big girls blouse.

Terminator - for very similar reasons to the above.

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