Tony Stark says Hello!

[pidsley]

Welcome to the grill. Step one: don't worry about annoying questions. Step two: get rid of #! and get a bbq spin running. Step three: get rid of i3 and use a real WM. ;)

[stark]

throw a burger or steak on the grill. Get your Sunday started early.

going to need a grill!

^ the irony :D

[stark]

Welcome to the grill. Step one: don't worry about annoying questions. Step two: get rid of #! and get a bbq spin running. Step three: get rid of i3 and use a real WM. ;)

Cream is on its way ;)

I'm looking into dwm but i don't know C so its a problem for me tweaking it.Ofcourse i can borrow other people's dotfiles but that would leave to learning their keybinds and its going to take a lot of time/knowledge/hard work to achieve the same setup in dwm which i currently have in i3 but i really like dwm so if there's any quickie guide that will get me started with C would be nice :D

[pidsley]

You don't need C to tweak dwm; it's all done from the config file, unless you need to patch it, and then you just need to learn how to patch (again, no C involved). If you have questions, please ask.

And I was just kidding about i3 -- several people here use it with great success. I am not one of them, so I like to say obnoxious things about it.

Have fun with Cream -- it's a great way to learn about different window managers. Again, if you have questions about any of the WMs, please ask. I am the "window mangler" because I have tried just about all of them.

[stark]

Thanks @pidsley i will annoy you when i have no idea what i'm doing ;)
i3 has been really nice until i discovered bug.n a dwm clone for windows but scripted in autohotkey ( yeah forced to used windows in rare occasions ) so i discovered some of the nice stuff about dwm, specially the layout management and some of the patches.I'm a newbie so my perception about dwm maybe wrong.

All the WMs o_O must have been nice / painful / daunting / fun :D

Currently trying to figure out whats wrong with my tmux, i get this gap issue in the input lines which screws up ssh sessions and mostly very annoying.

Shocker / Compliment: I have to say you guys have been VERY Welcoming and helpful, i will mark this day / thread / people who responded :')

[rust collector]

Dwm's config file is not quite evil enough to be very hard to use, even I can change dwm.

Just have fun and try something, it will change something, and you will figure it out...

Just remember to get the source file, and build it, and don't use debians package, as you can not change that.

[harveyhunt]

Welcome to the grill. Step one: don't worry about annoying questions. Step two: get rid of #! and get a bbq spin running. Step three: get rid of i3 and use a real WM. ;)

i3 is a real wm. :'(

[machinebacon]

Good morning and welcome to the grill Mr Stark!

I am sure you will learn more in a month here than in a year at CERTAIN OTHER DISTRO FORUMS ;)
You get my blessing. Have fun and be yourself :)

[GekkoP]

Welcome Tony.

[DebianJoe]

Just remember to get the source file, and build it, and don't use debians package, as you can not change that.

...well, not exactly.

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sudo apt-get source dwm

Will bring in the debian tarballs, which can then be extracted and you can change all of it that you want before building. This is sort of redundant, though, as you can get the 6.0 source directly from suckless with

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wget http://dl.suckless.org/dwm/dwm-6.0.tar.gz

Don't be scared. Build it, try it out, and if you have questions just ask.

[paolo]

Hello Stark !

[stark]

@rust collector yeah, i guess just need to play with it long enough to understand the syntax.

@harveyhunt +1 been using i3 for over a year until i saw the container management of dwm and some nice patches.Don't get me wrong i really like what i can do with i3 but i can't get better container management, and the marking feature is nice but its temporary.

@machinebacon Thanks i really appreciate that.All the hard-work you guys put into BBQ is just phenomenal,just another level B)

@GekkoP Thanks you guys are awesome and really nice and welcoming. :D

@DebianJoe Yes i have already cloned their repo and messing around with the code, taking a quickie for Git, and thanks i will annoy with questions when i'm stuck ;)

@paolo hey how you doing ?

Got Cream I AM IN [strikethrough]CANDY[/strikethrough] BBQ LAND. Thanks to everyone for the effort.Really clean / epic work.

RapemyX is next! B)

P.S. Is it a good idea to learn C while i'm learning C++ ?

[GekkoP]

^ C is always good.

[stark]

^ C is always good.

Nothing against C :) , but is it going to be alright learning two programming languages at the same time / day / week / month ? :D

I can't ditch C++ as its compulsory ( made by school and those profs. force borland down my throat ).

[machinebacon]

When I was a kid, we had to learn French and English as foreign languages the same time (not that my French *language skills* are any good today), which wasn't a problem either. I even think it's better than learning just one, because the characteristics of one can help you to understand the other one better.

So yeah, why not. Or as the Chinese say: "No zuo no die. You can you up - no can no BB" (happy googling!)

[harveyhunt]

^ C is always good.

Nothing against C :) , but is it going to be alright learning two programming languages at the same time / day / week / month ? :D

I can't ditch C++ as its compulsory ( made by school and those profs. force borland down my throat ).

I would say that some C knowledge is going to be very helpful when learning C++. You don't always need C++ for everything. :-)

[stark]

@machinebacon Alright then, thanks for filling in some confidence and good quote i'll add the english meaning to my sig :D.

Is K & RC ok or should i head for this http://c.learncodethehardway.org/book which teaches C by rectifying the code in K & RC ?

@harveyhunt I agree with you and C has better practical uses than C++ but in the so called "Professional World" people smirk at enthusiasts thinking they are practically ahead ( well maybe financially ) but very few enjoy coding and make something practically useful out of it.

P.S If there was a wm with container management and hackability of DWM , easily configurable as i3 and fvwm's eyecandy ( i like that desktop pager ) what would it be ? :D

[DebianJoe]

Is K & RC ok or should i head for this http://c.learncodethehardway.org/book which teaches C by rectifying the code in K & RC ?

K&R is holy scripture. Eventually, you'll want to have covered both, but K&R is a good starting point, IMHO. Don't get wrapped up in the details, but rather learn to swim before over-analyzing the backstroke/butterfly.

in the so called "Professional World" people smirk at enthusiasts thinking they are practically ahead...

The line between the 'professional world' and 'enthusiasts' is not quite as clear as you appear to believe. ;)

[GekkoP]

^ what Joe said.
Do K&R first, because 'the hard way' will take you back into its code at the end.

[machinebacon]

K&R is the bible. Some other resources:
http://linuxbbq.org/grillers/PDF/88-c-programs.pdf
http://linuxbbq.org/grillers/PDF/Head%20First%20C.pdf
http://linuxbbq.org/grillers/PDF/Native ... amming.pdf
http://linuxbbq.org/grillers/PDF/C+Prog ... ael+A_.pdf
http://linuxbbq.org/grillers/PDF/An+Eas ... Martin.pdf
http://linuxbbq.org/grillers/PDF/c-prog ... -linux.pdf
http://linuxbbq.org/grillers/PDF/think_complexity.pdf

gratis, so grab them :)