Malt and grain

[machinebacon]

All you Whiskey or Whisky experts, drunkards, alcoholics, beer-fetishists, you are invited to exchange your experience, give recommendations or write a review, all about the 'liquid gold' (or 'horse urine') ;)

"Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake."

[dkeg]

just got a bottle of Elijah Craig. Cork top!

cheers! taste review to come later

[dura]

Isle of Arran - Got some from the brewery on Arran a couple of months back (drank of course)

And now: Nikka from The Barrel

[dura]

Got a bottle of Balvenie for Christmas off my mum. Nearly all gone now, but it is a lovely soft tipple. I much prefer peat-free whiskies. The 3 that I have listed are peat-free. A strong peated whisky- Bells- is the first alcoholic drink I tasted. I stole a tiny bottle from the cupboard when I was a kid and remember my face going totally red, my eyes burning. Other grounding experiences with the stuff was in my teens. Always peated. Nearly always ended up badly. I started drinking them again last year. I prefer a nice single blend of high quality stuff, though that Nikka from The Barrel, which is a Japanese blended whisky is nice.

It's Friday. Going to crack open a beer. Wait for the release of 'Proof' (a coincedental mention in a whisky thread) and probably have a couple of glasses of Balvenie later on (during installation).

[machinebacon]

Haha, you are the first to notice the connection 'proof' vs 'proof' ;)

Bless you :)

[Potatohead]

Depends a great deal on what you like. Many people swear by Isley or Highland whiskies, with the stong peat/smoke/salt taste. Good, but they tend to taste like jodium, like medicin - place your joke here ;-)

I prefer the more fruit-like, "lighter", aromatic whiskies......

Best way to find out is visit a whisky festival. I visited 2 of them. You pay 25 euros entrance (that is 30 US dollars I think) you get a small glass and you may taste what you want. Only for the really expensive stuff (say 200 euros for a bottle) you must pay a few euros per glass extra, the rest is all included.

Your wife/gf/husband/bf may tell you to sleep on the couch that night, because you will smell godawful.....

[dura]

I tend to want to experiment and not be too traditionalist. Japanese whiskies are a good example. I've only had a few, but they have been very nice. I'm no conosieur either; my tastes are more because of bad memories rather than something I have acquired through a 'true' sense of taste. I do like the 'toffee nose' some have, but again the whole class, cultural capital thing that gets implicated becomes quite annoying. I like getting a bit pissed. I like it if that stuff tastes nice :)

Drinking some Hoegarden at the moment. The Balvenie or a nice bitter ale next.

A festival does sound good. Not sure how long I would last...

[machinebacon]

Guys you make me want to try some whiskey though I never drink. When I hear things like "fruit-like" or "toffee nose" -- reminds me of pipe smoking :D

Potato, where are you from? (because you mention Euros)

[Potatohead]

@machinebacon: The Netherlands. Think, the Scottish climate, without the whiskey :-) We do have some nice other liquors though.....

[rhowaldt]

@Potatohead: oh, sie kommen aus Holandia? warum haben sie das nicht erder gesagt? da sind mehr Holandischen menschen jetzt hier! das geht eine tolle geburtnis willen werden sallen wurden!

[machinebacon]

@rhowaldtz: What does actually "afgekankerde tyfushoer" mean? :D

[rhowaldt]

@bacon: it is a pretty weird word, 'afgekankerde'. it isn't really something that is actually existent. however, with a little imagination, you could make something of a meaning out of it. of course we all know that 'kanker' simply means 'cancer', and 'gekankerde' means 'cancered', 'af' means 'off'. we use 'hij is van het treinhuis af gekankerd', which translates as 'he fell off the train house'. 'kanker' is in this sense meant as a verb, 'to cancer', is to fall. we also got 'pleuren', which is from the disease 'pleuris' and 'tyfen', which comes from 'tyfus'.
'to cancer', or 'kankeren', can also be used when saying 'hij loopt te kankeren', which translates as 'he is busy cancering'. in this case, it means he is speaking angry words on something (if you just missed the train you start cancering on the train, like 'speaking on a subject' but 'cancer on a subject').
so, our 'kanker' is a lot like the English 'fuck', in the sense that it can be used in a variety of creative ways. 'afgekankerde' then means something like 'who fell off something'.

a 'tyfushoer' is easy though. Tyfus is a disease (see above also), and 'hoer' simply means 'whore'. So, when you say 'afgekankerde tyfushoer', you'd say something like 'tyfuswhore who fucking fell off a fucking thing', or something. pretty nonsensical, if you ask me. better just go with 'verkankerde tyfushoer', which means 'fucked up tyfuswhore', where 'fucked up' is like you are fucked, non-sexual. this is a third meaning for 'kanker', you can say 'ik ben naar de kanker' (i am to the cancer/i am cancered), which simply means 'i am fucked up'. a situation can also be cancered, in which case that situation is fucked up.

hope you don't regret asking :D

[machinebacon]

No, I don't regret it. Actually I hoped you would say the word "off" - because it was exactly the 'af' that made me think - in German it is 'ab' (also off), so the same like in "abgefuckt" (translates roughly to "in a bad condition" )

I guess this is once again an overlap in the two languages ;)

[rhowaldt]

the German 'ab' translates to 'op' in Dutch. however, in the context of saying 'abgefuckt', that would be something like 'fucked up' in English, and it would be 'opgefokt' in Dutch (we write 'fok' instead of 'fuck', sometimes). the German 'auf' is the Dutch 'af'. so you'd get 'aufgefuckt' when you translate 'afgekankerd'. maybe now you see why the word is kinda weird.
however, it would then become 'opgekankerde tyfushoer', which would be slightly less weird. in this case, 'opgekankerd' doesn't mean 'fucked up' but 'fucked off', as in 'fuck off!', go away. so translates to 'typhoid whore that went away'. still kinda weird. like i said above, the Dutch way of saying 'abgefuckt' would be 'verkankerd', or 'cancered', so 'cancered typhoid whore' is the most correct way of translating.

i think this entire 'ab' and 'auf' and 'op' and 'af' thing might be another one of those weird German-Dutch translation illogicalaties, just like 'mehr' being 'sea' in while the Dutch is just like the English, 'zee', and the German 'see' being a lake, which is 'meer' in Dutch. they're inconveniently switched around. now where in the development of our languages did that happen? :)

[machinebacon]

Meer, yes ;)

Though, remember that See has two articles: die See (as in "auf hoher See", from Germanic: saiwi) standing for the Meer-kind of ocean (from Latin: mare), while der See is a lake (as in Latin: Lac). The german word "die Lake" is a salty fluid used to pickle or conservate food. It stems from "die Lache" which is something like a puddle. In different regions of German, people refer to an ocean as "See", but to certain lakes as "Meer". So it is not really a 'golden rule of thumb'

[rhowaldt]

ah well, remember i only got German in school, and other than that from a friend who enjoys his Falco - Jeany and Hitler-imitations. so i was always thought it was merh and see everywhere, but it is good to hear the Germans aren't as silly all over the country ;)

[machinebacon]

Reviving old threads is regarded as necro-bumping.

[rhowaldt]

thanks for necrohumping.

[machinebacon]

Extending the topic to beer, btw :)

[Verändert]

I brew my own. Just trying to get the controls to work with Linux.