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5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by Sector11 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:57 pm

I really feel like

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at times. If this is better suited else where, please move it.

My goal is to get hotdog up and running "right" on hard metal in 5 Questions or less ... wouldn't you know it ... not even on metal yet and I have a problem.

My damn 'latam' keyboard. Doesn't want to work. So I'm bringing MB's final post here and my feeble attempts this AM - yesterday was a disaster:
machinebacon wrote:Ok, try this in a terminal, and if it works, add it with ampersand to .xinitrc

setxkbmap "latam(basic)"

It works here ... ñÑ
:( Not here .. It took me a while typing different keys to find the (, ), /, and " the @ I knew was shift-2 on a US board. No idea why that stuck. Probably because I have two on my keyboard [Alt-gr]+q or [Alt-gr]+2

so I did a few things and then finally a screeshot:

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scrot bbqhotdog.png 
C*L*I*C*K -> go slow - that's on a /home in live session ... unplug and "blink" there is was!

Then mucked around until I found a way to make a mount point (honestly cannot remember) to mount my /dev/sda5 and ended up with:

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cp bbqhotdog.png /mnt/m5
that did the trick: here it is ... since a picture says it best: http://postimg.org/image/um25luua1/

As you see no latam keyboard. :(

So Question #1 of 5 - does this not work in a live session or do I need to to this on metal and reboot?

EDIT: Was going to try VB but for some reason it is logging me out every now and then.
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Re: 5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by wuxmedia » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:41 pm

mount's not so hard:

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mount /mnt/ /dev/sdwhatever
you and the damn latam keyboard :p

might as well try these too:
(as root, should be able to tab complete) [/code]dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration[/code]
maybe:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ke ... on_in_Xorg

TBH I tried on my machine and it didn't work either or noticed no difference trying latam. 'la' now that was a trip

throw this into the pot too:
https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard

one of these things must work.

should work in a live session, better to identify what actually makes it work before installing it.
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Re: 5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by machinebacon » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:47 pm

Sector,

"set xkbmap" is not "setxkbmap"

So, again:

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setxkbmap "latam(basic)" &
comes into your ~/.xinitrc file. And you can simply use a

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setxkbmap "latam(basic)"
to switch immediately in terminal.

1 of 5.

Free info: you need the quotes around latam(basic) because else setxkbmap misinterprets the open and close brackets. So, "latam(basic)" with quotes and brackets, and setxkbmap is one word.
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Re: 5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by rhowaldt » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:58 pm

only suggestion i have is that i never really muck about with setting *anything* from within a live session. this is simply a strategy i adopted from the fact that many things do indeed not work from a live sessions and i dont give enough fucks to piece out what does and what doesnt each time i try something new. therefore i just install that shit before i try anything, to save me the possibility of running into issues that might be due to live sessions.

don't ask me about technicalities, i am a fucking noob - i see Wux and MB have you covered already :)
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Re: 5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by wuxmedia » Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:16 pm

machinebacon wrote:Sector, "set xkbmap" is not "setxkbmap"
That might help :p
Although that didn't do anything on my Xbuntu setup, either.
Not really sure what it's supposed to do, is it like french where all the (uk/us qwerty) number row are symbols?
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Re: 5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by machinebacon » Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:36 pm

setxkbmap <countrycode> sets the keyboard in X -- usually fr would make an awerty keyboard -- no idea :)
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Re: 5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by Sector11 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:39 pm

OH CRAP! I cannot believe I did that ... that should be a 2 Question usage for the stupidity of the fup!

{sigh} hangin' head in shame...
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Re: 5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by Sector11 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:47 pm

rhowaldt wrote:only suggestion i have is that i never really muck about with setting *anything* from within a live session. {snip}

don't ask me about technicalities, i am a fucking noob - i see Wux and MB have you covered already :)
I wanted to test getting the keyboard setup ... I'm going to bet the installer uses a US keyboard as well which always a bit of sweat as well.

but ... your make an excellent point ... about live sessions ... Thanks, I'll keep that in mind...

You a nobb ... aaaa hell, I'm in deep shit now then.

Anyway ... it's getting /dev/sda6 as a "home" (as opposed to 'live session') when I get back later ...

:D
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Re: 5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by Sector11 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:42 pm

OK I have "Hot Dog up and running ,,, still using the damn US keyboard but it is in place ...

This is off the HDD: http://postimg.org/image/7bnzq6hu1/

Notice what I had to do in nano to see what my keys really were. :(
but at least it worked ... maybe I should make a mykeys.txt

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nano mykeys.txt
to use until I get this figured out.

Colour me happy ... NOW yo play with it.

add my aliases so I can feel more at home with the terminal ... some are:

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alias slocal='sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales'
alias locprg='sudo dpkg-reconfigure localepurge'
############################################################### fontconfig ###
alias sfont='sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig'
############################################################ console-setup ###
alias console='sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup'
################################################### keyboard-configuration ###
alias keyb='sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration'
################################################### Time zone data: tzdata ###
alias tzd='sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata'
I'm not even going to worry why there are 6 BBQ entries in grub - that can come later ...

Point is ... it is installed, it does run ... and only 1 Q ... will I have more ... toss a coin ... HEY, who put glue on the ceiling! NOT fair! :D

Look out StartPage here I come ....
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Re: 5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by Sector11 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:07 pm

wuxmedia wrote:mount's not so hard:

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mount /mnt/ /dev/sdwhatever
you and the damn latam keyboard :p
HEY! That's not nice, my latam keyboard is very sensitive ... and getting old ... and 100% loyal. :D

Water under the bridge - it's installed.

Trying to mount as you mentioned and I got a "not in fstab error" or some such thing, no idea how I did it for that first image I posted ... it showed up as a "Try this" when I got an error... it worked ... should have made a note.

I've seen those links and have used them to help people setup keyboard layouts over on #!.
'latam' is one of the few keyboard layout with more than 2 letters, and was the most common keyboard here 14 years ago. Now Argentina has switched almost 100% to "Spanish" layout - they are not the same.

I have a couple of "Spanish" keyboards here, cheap - get them free with systems - one was given to me one came as a freebie with my new case. They are cheap enough that they'd probably break in a week. This "Microsoft Internet KeyboardPro" (latam version) is pushing 15 years old, everything works. And only now is the [E|€] key "beginning" to fade ... I'll hang onto this for as long as it works.

OK, of to reload HotDog and play ... later will post good news .. (think positive.)
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Re: 5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by wuxmedia » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:02 am

^ I'm hoping you didn't copy/paste that code tag verbatim...

as for your wacky keyboard - well I respect your luddite-ism.
One does need to get ones hand dirty with it, on occasion.
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Re: 5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by machinebacon » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:00 am

The BBQ way of mounting:

"sudo mkmnt"


Free tip of the Day:

If you want super-easy mounting, do "sudo apt-get install mountpy" and run "sudo mountpy" or "sudo umountpy" to un/mount all drives.

If you want the same for selected drives only, do "sudo apt-get install gnuit" and run "sudo gitmount /dev/sda4" for example.
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Re: 5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by Sector11 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:04 am

wuxmedia wrote:^ I'm hoping you didn't copy/paste that code tag verbatim...

as for your wacky keyboard - well I respect your luddite-ism.
One does need to get ones hand dirty with it, on occasion.
My keyboard isn't wacky ... very common in other parts of South America ... just that in the past few years Argentina decided to be different. I've been using it for so long ... I'd get lost on any other keyboard.

No I didn't copy paste that code. I may be crazy, I may be slow, and a bit dumb, but I ain't stupid. ;)

I have HotDog in place ... it's working ... and working with my 'latam' keyboard layout. :D

Next I have to eliminate a few grub entries ... will be start paging that tomorrow.
I have:

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CrunchBang GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-4 amd64
CrunchBang GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-4 amd64 (recovery mode)
Linux BBQ HD amd64 (2014.40) (in /dev/sda6)
Linux BBQ HD amd64 (2014.40) (in /dev/sda6)
Linux BBQ HD amd64 (2014.40) (in /dev/sda6)
Linux BBQ HD amd64 (2014.40) (in /dev/sda6)
Linux BBQ HD amd64 (2014.40) (in /dev/sda6)
quick search tells me I'm on the right path:

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/boot/grub/grub.cfg
- no I'm not going to edit that directly ... but I see 5 entries all 'identical'

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menuentry "LinuxBBQ Hot Dog amd64 (2014.40) (on /dev/sda6)" --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
	insmod part_msdos
	insmod ext2
	set root='(hd0,msdos6)'
	search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 524ee7b4-dbb2-405c-8dc0-c918c183680c
	linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6
	initrd /initrd.img
}
Not sure I understand this part: insmod ext2

DUH!! {banging head on desk} ... I do things as I type posts ... just ran:
DUH!! {banging head on desk}
DUH!! {banging head on desk}
DUH!! {banging head on desk}

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 15 Jan 15 | 21:51:22 ~
    $ gru
alias gru = sudo update-grub
[sudo] password for sector11: 
Generating grub.cfg ...
Found background image: /usr/share/images/desktop-base/grub-splash-crunchbang.png
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64
Found LinuxBBQ Hot Dog amd64 (2014.40) on /dev/sda6
done
 
 15 Jan 15 | 21:51:39 ~
    $ 
and my grub.cfg all cleaned up, just one BBQ Listing ...

Gotta say this is the most fun (and learning experience) I've had with a "Grilled Distro" strike that - any install.

Wonder if I can go from HotDot to filet mignon. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Re: 5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by machinebacon » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:06 am

Again back to the latam question. I would love to prove that it works independently of distro, edition, operating system :D

Open a terminal.
Enter: setxkbmap latam
press relevant keys

And then please show me the output (scrot, copy-paste, whatever :))
Until now you seem to have opened X, then opened the editor, entered the command in ~/.xinitrc, and then opened a new terminal. Of course you first need the setxkbmap latam command to be read.


user@grill:~$ setxkbmap de
user@grill:~$ qwertzuiopü+
bash: qwertzuiopü+: command not found
user@grill:~$ setxkbmap latam
user@grill:~$ asdfghjklñ{
bash: asdfghjklñ{: command not found
user@grill:~$ setxkbmap us
user@grill:~$ # back home :)
user@grill:~$
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Re: 5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by dkeg » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:17 am

Glad to see you rockin S11. Now rice that shit up sans conky and post it up!

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Re: 5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by Sector11 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:40 am

machinebacon wrote:Free tip of the Day:
That's it ... that's what I did ... "sudo mkmnt" ... that what some script said to do. :D
Is that a script in LBBQ ... i doesn't work on #!

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Description: GNU Interactive Tools, a file browser/viewer and process viewer/killer
 gnuit (GNU Interactive Tools) is a set of interactive text-mode tools, closely integrated with the shell.  It contains an extensible file system browser (similar to Norton Commander and
 XTree), an ASCII/hex file viewer, a process viewer/killer and some other related utilities and shell scripts.  It can be used to increase the speed and efficiency of most of the daily
 tasks such as copying and moving files and directories, invoking editors, compressing and uncompressing files, creating and expanding archives, compiling programs, sending mail, etc.  It
 looks nice, has colors (if the standard ANSI color sequences are supported) and is user-friendly. 
 
 One of the main advantages of gnuit is its flexibility.  It is not limited to a given set of commands.  The configuration file can be easily enhanced, allowing the user to add new
 commands or file operations, depending on its needs or preferences.
How come I'm only hearing about this now? AWESOME! THANK YOIU! That looks sweet!

And mountpy as well.

I'd give ya a hug ... but you probably drop you soap hahahahahaha

Thanks for the mountpy and gnuit
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Re: 5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by Sector11 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:51 am

machinebacon wrote:Again back to the latam question. I would love to prove that it works independently of distro, edition, operating system :D
It works, but not in a terminal .. got some reason my terminal(s) have lost the ability to show ñ - but it does work in nano ... ?????

terminal and nano: http://postimg.org/image/lw52l0csp/

Wait this is #! ... tomorrow I try in HDog ... off to bed soon.
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Re: 5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by Sector11 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:52 am

dkeg wrote:Glad to see you rockin S11. Now rice that shit up sans conky and post it up!
Say what sans conky ... OK ... tomorrow ... bed time ...

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Re: 5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by machinebacon » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:16 am

Oh okay, if the terminal doesn't show special characters, it's just a matter of getting a good unicode font, for example. Let's tackle this tomorrow. It's a bonus, because it involves some .Xresources editing. Sleep well so long.
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Re: 5 Questions or less ...

Unread post by dkeg » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:29 am

I was also thinking along those same lines. Tomorrow, post up your nanorc and .Xresource files.

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