Introduction

Unread post by **beantaxi** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:10 am

Hello.

Linux novice. Got frustrated at having to manually position my terminal windows every time I open them ... read a little about window managers ... somehow ended up here.

This looks like a fun place. Might be a few days before I can grab a spin and fire it up (or whatever the correct phrasing is), but I'm looking forward to it. Sounds like good times.

Thank you,
BT

Unread post by **wuxmedia** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:51 am

fire up the spin grab, :) whatever you mate.
check the wiki, and poke around, there are some gems here.

Unread post by **vic** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:23 am

Thanks for the intro beantaxi and what wuxmedia said.

Unread post by **machinebacon** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:58 am

Welcome to the taxi, beangrill!

It's the second time today that seeing your username makes me hungry.

Unread post by **Theo** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:26 am

Welcome beantaxi.
This is a fun place to learn things, but as far as the 'terminal thing' perhaps an idea to use tmux (session management) ?

Unread post by **wuxmedia** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:34 am

^ yeah or a tiler with a fixed config. Does that even exist?
I know there is an i3 session restorer, which I've never used.

Unread post by **rhowaldt** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:08 am

welcome to the shithole beantaxi :)
strong name. evocative.

now on to more important matters.

1. where are you located?
2. what is your favourite colour?
3. what is your favourite animal?

Unread post by **simgin** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:21 am

Welcome to the grill Beantaxi, cool name :)

^ Rho, are you doing an extended registration process, kind of a human 'captcha' ? :D

Unread post by **beantaxi** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:28 am

1. where are you located? USA
2. what is your favourite colour? Don't have one ... they're all pretty great
3. what is your favourite animal? See #2

Unread post by **beantaxi** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:45 am

Btw rhowaldt I was having a hard look at herbstluftwm, which appears to be your wm of record. I like that its scripting language is bash, and it sounds like you essentially create your layout on the fly from the cmdline, which I would enjoy.

Do you think herbstluftwm is perfectly suitable, for a first run at a tiling wm? Or are there strong reasons to go with bspwm or i3 (or other).

Thanks,
BT

Unread post by **dkeg** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:04 pm

Welcome. To your above question, yes. Bspwm is good too, but requires a bit more effort up front. Spectrwm would also be a good option. Doesn't hurt having them all and testing. Have fun.

Unread post by **machinebacon** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:07 pm

beanie, take Spectrwm and remember Alt-Shift-Return ;)

Unread post by **machinebacon** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:12 pm

okay, I elaborate:
- spectrwm tiles, in my opinion, most "logically" out of the box
- the keybindings for activating/moving to workspaces are also logical (alt-1/2/3 and alt-shift-1/2/3)
- the window manager and configuration files are documented well
- there is not *too* much that can be configured, so you won't waste hours setting it up
- it is easy to make spectrwm get used to your workflow: I usually have a browser on workspace 1, tmux or terminal on workspace 2, emacs on workspace 3. Switching around really fall nicely into the hand.
- it's light on resources and dependencies

Unread post by **GekkoP** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:19 pm

Welcome to the grill.

As for wms: try them all and pick your favourite > http://linuxbbq.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1301

Unread post by **beantaxi** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:28 pm

Machinebacon, Thanks for the suggestion (and elaboration). I just read about spectrwm in the docs and it seems like a solid choice.

I still haven't wrapped my head around adding a window manager, or switching among window managers, let alone adding a distro to my perfectly good vanilla Ubuntu installation. But I have time and the Internet for all that.

Thanks again bacon! (how is *my* name making people hungry)
BT

Unread post by **machinebacon** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:34 pm

There's beans, and I love a good stew.

Why don't you just add spectrwm to Ubuntu first, for a test run. Then as next you make a decision based on the following:
- do I want to update/upgrade every day?
- do I really need the newest crap?
- if I break shit, can I fix it?
- is there a reason that I need newer development packages?

If you answer at least 3 times with "no", you should get yourself http://www.linuxbbq.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2433

Adding a window manager and changing it really just needs one little edit in the ~/.xinitrc file, so don't worry about it.

Unread post by **beantaxi** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:52 pm

Was that the right thread (CWM: Egeszsegedre! (586) Development Notes)? I just read the whole thing and I do not think I understood any of it. If it *is* the right thread, then I'll just reread and see if I can actually understand it better this time. Otherwise I will spare my poor brain.

Unread post by **machinebacon** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:14 pm

Sorry if I wasn't clear. This ^^ was meant as answer to "adding a distro to my perfectly good vanilla Ubuntu installation"

Of course don't do it if there is no need.

Install spectrwm on Ubuntu. It should appear in lightdm (or whatever DM you are using). if not, you can create a custom entry for it.

Unread post by **ivanovnegro** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:00 pm

You found an unusual place for a Linux novice. :)

I also agree on everything said about spectrwm.

Oh, and welcome to this corner.

Unread post by **ChefIronBelly** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 4:19 pm

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