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Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:16 am
by machinebacon
Or apt show <package> (or aptitude show <package>) for a terminal view of the package description, apt policy <package> for its dependencies. These two commands were apt-cache before.

https://debian-handbook.info/browse/sta ... cache.html

Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:08 pm
by catfood
Black Ivan wrote:Either in Chrome or Firefox with a search shortcut like deb for Debian packages. My example uses mplayer on the official Debian site.
https://packages.debian.org/search?lang ... ds=mplayer
I saw that in Firefox yesterday. Wondered; can it be set to only show packages i can get? Or are all packages on Debian available to us because we're on unstable? Will it show siduction packages too, or is there another site for that?

Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:15 pm
by ivanovnegro
It is only for Debian and it shows you all branches but you can change that of course, only sid or only stable etc.

We have the Siduction sources enabled but in this case you should fire up the terminal.

Btw, the quote button is in the right corner under the posts.

Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:25 pm
by pidsley
^^ You can limit the search to a branch and/or architecture (up at the top of the page: "limit to suite" "limit to architecture") to see only the packages in jessie or sid, or only x86.

packages.debian.org is especially useful if you want to see which version is available in each branch.

The command-line apt search, show, and policy commands search only in the sources you have enabled, and will show siduction packages if you have siduction sources enabled. If you want to search siduction online, go to http://packages.siduction.org/

(edit) what ivan said, only more words ;-)

Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:35 am
by wuxmedia
PS all the forum functions are written in as text, in the BBScode style a bit like html - using 'full editor' makes a bit more sense of it.
so {quote="catfood"} this is your quote {/quote} (replace braces with square brackets)

Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:41 am
by Snap
You can add the pidsley's search to the BBQ search functions into ~/.bashrc

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function deb() { links https://packages.debian.org/"`encode $@`" ;}
or

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function deb() { x-www-browser -new-tab https://packages.debian.org/"`encode $@`" ;}

Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:11 pm
by catfood
Cool, thanks. Removes any need for Synaptic now :)

Yea I did hit quote button, just tried to edit some of it out so i didn't make a giant post just to reply to one part of it. Guess I cut into one of the (/quote) boxes while editing... Hard to type on android

Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:19 am
by machinebacon
^ For quoting or referring to the poster(s) above you you can use the ^ sign. So in front of this sentence I answer/quote/refer to you, directly.

with ^^ I refer to two posts above mine, that would be Snap's post.

Much easier than fucking around with square brackets and stuff.

Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:08 pm
by catfood
Finally got USBs to backup windows in case I ever sell netbook. Game on!

Going with BBQ Break. All versions of BBQ I've tried recognize my sound card and play audio. The 4.2.0-trunk-586 kernel in Break also regonized the weird [FN]-3/4 volume up and down shortcuts on the keyboard. Saves me time trying to program that in somewhere.

I will probably bloat it out for a while until I learn more. I will probably break it a lot too, lol. I'm gonna try a separate /home partition for the 1st time. Hopefully I can just reinstall / and continue where I left off. Also didn't wanna Clonezilla backup a 250GB partition everytime. Figured a 30GB root would be far more manageable.

Thanks everyone for your help and guidance. I will be hardware grillin by the end of the day.

Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:45 pm
by machinebacon
probably you just want to make a partition that is distro-independent, something like /movies or /music, and not (!) sharing a /home over different distros. We had this discussion in the past, and there were problems with things in the /home folder that could not be "synced" for different distros on the same machine. Just as an example, I have Emacs in different versions on different machines, and the .emacs file doesn't work universally (there are differences in some packages like org-mode). Of course it's just me, and your needs might be completely different. Most of us put their dotfiles on github, or simply copy the /home/$USER folder onto a backup. I don't even know if the installer's "separate home" works well as I never use it (some of us do).
By all means, always always always back your things up - sd card, USB stick, whatever, dropbox et al., you can even ask our admin wux for a bit of space on the server (he's on holidays now).

Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:53 pm
by dkeg
with all this talk, think it may be time for a fresh base install ....

Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:04 pm
by catfood
BBQBreak will be the only distro installed on netbook. Separate home isn't for sharing, just for the slim chance I can keep some of the config I do to Break when I end up breaking it somehow. Would like to try and do a separate /music partition too just to isolate that from the system.

Want to use full disk encryption. Know it's a nightmare to configure on dual boot. Just want easier backups or reinstalls. I don't wanna wait 8+ hrs for Clonezilla to restore whole HD at a time, lol; especially knowing I'm gonna have a learning curve here...

Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:11 pm
by machinebacon
oh dear, encryption -- that's a thing I have never tried, to be honest. For me flagging the files read/write/execute by "root" is safe enough :D

Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:18 pm
by catfood
Any suggestion for /music file system type?
I have ntfs(yes, Thanks Ivan, hyperactive finger syndrome) on the Dell, but for some reason remembering Linux might not be able to encrypt disc if nfts is present...?

nm, mkfs.ext4 dee dee dee

I at least wanna try encryption while I have a fresh empty hard drive. If I can't figure it out, I'll skip it. Would be nice to have on a laptop though. I encrypt all my Virtual Boxes on here and love it. Have yet to find a way into them without passphrase. Kinda paranoid though. I can put a LinuxMint live cd into computer and access every other file on here across 3 distros, except those, lol.

Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:54 pm
by ivanovnegro
You mean ntfs and I would choose ext4, even xfs but nothing else.

Never tried encryption though. I am not that paranoid. Zero interest so I cannot speak for it.

Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:07 pm
by pidsley
ext4

I put things I need secure (credit card records and such) in a tcplay container. I have never encrypted an entire drive and see no real reason to encrypt the system, but I don't travel with a laptop.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Tcplay
https://packages.debian.org/sid/tcplay

Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:11 pm
by catfood
BBQ package manager -> install Cryptsetup
sudo modprobe dm-mod
separate 1G /Boot, separate /, separate /Home.
Installer asks to setup encryption passphrase for both / and /home.

Looks like its going to work and then totally doesn't work, lol.
My favorite BBQ installer error 1 failure strikes again :D

It was at least worth a shot while I'm starting fresh. I will have to look into tcplay containers...

Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:48 pm
by machinebacon
someday someone will look into it. sorry

Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:11 pm
by vic
Wish you the very best with your setup catfood. Have never tried encryption myself, and have nothing that :D on my hd. ;)

Re: Best base BBQ for my needs?

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:58 pm
by wuxmedia
no encryption here either, even for work, I don't keep any sensitive data on my work laptop.
yeah let me know if you need an old school cloud backup (ssh/scp/rsync)
then you can have a base install covered, and just scp it to /home/$USER