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Re: language

Unread post by ivanovnegro » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:50 pm

rhowaldt wrote: and i really don't know the answer to Wux' question, because in Dutch the noun doesn't change depending on the gender so if beer is masculine, it will always stay masculine no matter which gender is drinking it.
Exactly and in Romance languages it works just like in all other Indo-European languages.

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Re: language

Unread post by rhowaldt » Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:05 am

ivanovnegro wrote:Romance languages
<3 ;)
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Re: language

Unread post by wuxmedia » Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:09 am

^^^ + ^^ Right - thanks, that is exactly the answer I wanted.
It's just English that changes that around then?
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Re: language

Unread post by ivanovnegro » Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:11 pm

Wait. Now you confuse me Wux.
Let's do an example.

1. English: his beer; her beer
2. German: sein Bier; ihr Bier

- the noun stays the same, in English you give a fuck :) and in German it is neutral, means the gender of beer does not change

3. Spanish: su cerveza; su cerveza

- the noun is feminine but the possessive pronoun does not change, in this case the Spaniards take it equally, I guess the French, too

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Re: language

Unread post by rhowaldt » Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:32 pm

perhaps there is some misunderstanding, indeed. to help clarify, in Dutch it is the same as German.

4. Dutch: zijn bier; haar bier
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Re: language

Unread post by rust collector » Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:46 pm

Someone said english has more exceptions to rules, than it has rules...

I have no idea.

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Re: language

Unread post by wuxmedia » Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:11 am

^ heh, those exceptions are the rules - yeah I'm good at confusion, seems I have a talent for it.

yeah that really answered my question, French is probably the same as spanish, can't remember now.
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Re: language

Unread post by rhowaldt » Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:02 pm

i divide my time between being a grammar nazi and a language anarchist. it gets confusing sometimes.
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Re: language

Unread post by wuxmedia » Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:17 pm

We only have grammar nazis at work :(

We are expected to have good English, but then we get mails from natives, like:

"No [wux] we can end emails to [redacted] but she can
receive them but not send out. Been a little to stretched to look any
further have had her laptop and mine side by side looking at the emap
addresses etc and still doesn't work."

WUT?
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Re: language

Unread post by rhowaldt » Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:49 pm

native speakers are often worse with the language than non-native speakers :)
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