The Future of amd64 spins

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Re: The Future of amd64 spins

Unread post by wuxmedia » Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:14 pm

^ Bacon is kind of prescient, you get used to it 8)
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Unread post by Sector11 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:57 pm

OH .. OK, thanks for the heads-up.
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Re: The Future of amd64 spins

Unread post by hinto » Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:28 am

I use vmplayer on linux every day for coding win7 native applications. No worries.
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Re: The Future of amd64 spins

Unread post by gurtid » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:42 am

deleted and decided to STFU instead
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Re: The Future of amd64 spins

Unread post by machinebacon » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:54 am

Half-true. There are 64 bit releases (numerically even more than 32bit), but only 3 will be kept updated by me personally and uploaded every 3-6 months, depending on changes upstream, and the others can be downloaded and dist-upgraded by the users.
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Re: The Future of amd64 spins

Unread post by gurtid » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:57 am

sorry mb - deleted my comment while you were posting this i guess.

for those interested I suggested that the 64bit kerfuffle was because SOME users were having issues with the 64bit stuff.
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Unread post by machinebacon » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:07 pm

It's hard to say what exactly causes the boot problems, as I neither have the hwinfo of the machines, nor can I test on various machines. There's something fishy and I don't know what it is - there are problems with the newer kernels (networking-notworking), for example. But anyway, keeping two architectures alive for so many BBQ flavors is simply too much work, I admit it. The BBQ is meant to be fun and hobby, and I do not have to report on why I do what - everytime somebody asked "will there be a 64bit" I have spun it for the user who asked, and not for myself. And exactly the same people, later, complain or question my decisions if I have simply enough of doing double work and being ass-raped because some shitfaced Broadcom driver doesn't work out of the box. I have enough of it, really. So, there are only two choices: I continue the BBQ and pick what I think is the sanest of all: i686 with support for non-PAE, light systems and occasionally a full-feat desktop, the handful of 64bit releases (don't forget stuff like Rocks!, which even features a special kernel) and a bunch of super-minimal WM-only releases to give spotlight for obscure software. The other choice is to cancel the web space, move everything to a hard drive, send the database to somebody who likes it, and abandon the project. Exactly these two choice are there.

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Re: The Future of amd64 spins

Unread post by gurtid » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:13 pm

understood mb. that's the reason I deleted the initial comments as didn't want to come across as bitchin'.
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Re: The Future of amd64 spins

Unread post by machinebacon » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:16 pm

No problem gurtid, didn't detect any bitchin' ;)
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Re: The Future of amd64 spins

Unread post by mirix » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:03 pm

Acho que seria muito melhor abandonar as versões de 32 bits e focar-se apenas nas de 64 bits.

Também seria bom ter uma versão com um kernel alternativo como o FreeBSD ou o Illumos ;-)

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