[OK] BBQ Arrogance: xserver-xorg-video-intel

[machinebacon]

Fellow roasters and potheads,

the package xserver-xorg-video-intel is on the removal if you perform a full dist-upgrade today. Please delay for a few days, even if you don't run an Intel video card. Something is fishy upstream.


So this warning only applies for the releases that have GIMP and Inkscape. Users of these releases can do the following:

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sudo nano /etc/apt/preferences.d/10siduction 

and change the priority to 100. Save and exit, and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again. If you still want to have siduction's experimental pinned higher (for newer packages of software that is not in Debian's repos), switch back to 1000.

[DebianJoe]

^^will totally make your system better.

[machinebacon]

^ lol
The really fishy thing is that it wants to downgrade a bunch of stuff that are rdepends of xorg.

[ivanovnegro]

Does not happen here. Maybe the storm already moved. No video driver upgrades nor removals.

[pidsley]

Not happening here either. dist-upgraded hubby, proof, and a netinstall with no problems. Got some upgrades to video packages, but no attempted removals.

(edit) I did just see this at the end of my Athlon box upgrade:

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grave bugs of xserver-xorg-video-radeon (1:6.14.4-8 -> 1:7.2.0-1) <unfixed>
 #720329 - xserver-xorg-video-radeon: Screen keeping black at start but for the cursor

But I just checked the bug, and it looks like the person who reported it did not have KMS enabled, so it will probably be closed soon.

[machinebacon]

Okay, thanks.

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The following packages will be REMOVED:
  xserver-xorg-video-intel
[...]
The following packages will be DOWNGRADED:
  distro-defaults libpixman-1-0 x11proto-input-dev

So if somebody sees this, retry to "upg" a day later. I mark it as [OK]

Seems the downgraded packages are taken from Siduction experimental (lower version number), gotta play with the apt preferences to see if there's a link.

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So this warning only applies for the releases that have GIMP and Inkscape. Users of these releases can do the following:

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sudo nano /etc/apt/preferences.d/10siduction 

and change the priority to 100. Save and exit, and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again. If you still want to have siduction's experimental pinned higher (for newer packages of software that is not in Debian's repos), switch back to 1000.

[sqlpython]

I used to pin All the time back in the late 90s and early 2s
Now, I have abandoned the practice (practise)
The last thing that I saw pinned was a Wrestler named "Killer Kowalski"
and all is well for over 10 yrs stable, testing and Sid..

[machinebacon]

I used to pin All the time back in the late 90s and early 2s
Now, I have abandoned the practice (practise)
The last thing that I saw pinned was a Wrestler named "Killer Kowalski"
and all is well for over 10 yrs stable, testing and Sid..

Can we stay on topic in the upgrade warning section? Thank you.

[GekkoP]

On Elektra right now:

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The following packages will be REMOVED:
  xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
  xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage
  xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng
  xserver-xorg-video-voodoo
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libgnutls28 libhogweed2
The following packages will be upgraded:
  blt initramfs-tools libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc6 libc6-dev libc6-i686 libgudev-1.0-0 libmtdev1 liborcus-0.6-0 libpam-systemd libpython3-stdlib libpython3.3 libpython3.3-minimal
  libpython3.3-stdlib libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-calc libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-gtk libreoffice-impress libreoffice-math
  libreoffice-report-builder-bin libreoffice-writer libsoundtouch0 libsystemd-daemon0 libsystemd-journal0 libsystemd-login0 libudev1 locales multiarch-support python3
  python3-minimal python3-uno python3.3 python3.3-minimal systemd tar udev uno-libs3 ure wget xserver-common xserver-xfbdev xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev
  xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
  xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
61 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 20 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 78.2 MB of archives.
After this operation, 3,332 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

Don't know whether it is safe to upgrade.

[DebianJoe]

I did it...X still boots.

[GekkoP]

I trust you, so I just did it. All fine here, X working with no issues at all. Thanks.

[wuxmedia]

yeah, my X went down then back up after a login.

[swftech]

Thanks for the warning baconator, wants to remove some x on Semplice 5 as well.

The following packages will be REMOVED:

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xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-i128
  xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-rendition
  xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
  xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-voodoo

[RandomCharacter]

"Something is fishy upstream." - Machinebacon

What is fishy upstream is a planned transition of xorg. It is not nearly complete. What bugs me is, why do they release parts of it when other required parts are not ready yet?

Tim

[machinebacon]

The "fishy" comment was a few weeks ago, and Arrogance was hit earlier than other releases because of the hard experimental 'pinning'. Yes, it's a good question, though - Siduction is really nice and sets packages on hold, with a little delay (1-2 days) though.

[ivanovnegro]

What bugs me is, why do they release parts of it when other required parts are not ready yet?

Unfortunately that is the nature of Sid. Look at Gnome 3.8 for example, a mess. The Debian way...

[pidsley]

This move appears to be complete enough for successful dist-upgrades now. I'm locking the topic.