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Sector11
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Best to wait?

Unread post by Sector11 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:17 pm

OK, I'm the newbie noob here ... I've waited a couple of days ... and today I see the end .. about iceweasel.

Is that a recommended wait as well?

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 23 Aug 13 | 00:54:04 ~
    $ up
[sudo] password for sector11:
Get: 1 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid InRelease [204 kB]
Hit http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid InRelease
Hit http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid/main amd64 Packages
Hit http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid/non-free amd64 Packages
Get: 2 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex [7,876 B]
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/contrib amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/non-free amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/contrib Translation-en/DiffIndex
Get: 3 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Translation-en/DiffIndex [7,876 B]
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/non-free Translation-en/DiffIndex
Get: 4 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main amd64 2013-08-22-2033.01.pdiff [8,753 B]
Get: 5 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main amd64 2013-08-22-2033.01.pdiff [8,753 B]
Get: 6 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main 2013-08-22-2033.01.pdiff [324 B]
Get: 7 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main 2013-08-22-2033.01.pdiff [324 B]
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid/main Translation-en_CA
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid/main Translation-en
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid/non-free Translation-en_CA
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid/non-free Translation-en
Fetched 229 kB in 6s (37.1 kB/s)

Current status: 22 updates [+5], 3973 new [+1].
The following packages will be upgraded:
  apt apt-utils cpp-4.7 gcc-4.7 gcc-4.7-base iceweasel libapt-inst1.5 libapt-pkg4.12 libdrm-dev libdrm-intel1
  libdrm-nouveau2 libdrm-radeon1 libdrm2 libgcc-4.7-dev libkms1 libmozjs23d libneon27-gnutls libtiff-tools
  libtiff5 xserver-common xserver-xorg-core{b} xulrunner-23.0
22 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 3,374 kB/39.0 MB of archives. After unpacking 529 kB will be freed.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 xserver-xorg-core : Depends: libudev1 (>= 183) which is a virtual package.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

      Remove the following packages:
1)      xorg
2)      xserver-xorg
3)      xserver-xorg-core
4)      xserver-xorg-input-all
5)      xserver-xorg-input-evdev
6)      xserver-xorg-input-mouse
7)      xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
8)      xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
9)      xserver-xorg-input-wacom
10)     xserver-xorg-video-all
11)     xserver-xorg-video-apm
12)     xserver-xorg-video-ark
13)     xserver-xorg-video-ati
14)     xserver-xorg-video-chips
15)     xserver-xorg-video-cirrus
16)     xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
17)     xserver-xorg-video-i128
18)     xserver-xorg-video-intel
19)     xserver-xorg-video-mach64
20)     xserver-xorg-video-mga
21)     xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
22)     xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
23)     xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
24)     xserver-xorg-video-r128
25)     xserver-xorg-video-radeon
26)     xserver-xorg-video-rendition
27)     xserver-xorg-video-s3
28)     xserver-xorg-video-s3virge
29)     xserver-xorg-video-savage
30)     xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion
31)     xserver-xorg-video-sis
32)     xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
33)     xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
34)     xserver-xorg-video-trident
35)     xserver-xorg-video-tseng
36)     xserver-xorg-video-vesa
37)     xserver-xorg-video-vmware
38)     xserver-xorg-video-voodoo



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?
=======================================
 23 Aug 13 | 11:23:14 ~
    $ upit
[sudo] password for sector11:
Get: 1 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid InRelease [204 kB]
Get: 2 http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid InRelease [26.4 kB]
Hit http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid/main amd64 Packages
Hit http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid/non-free amd64 Packages
Get: 3 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex [7,876 B]
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/contrib amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/non-free amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/contrib Translation-en/DiffIndex
Get: 4 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Translation-en/DiffIndex [7,876 B]
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/non-free Translation-en/DiffIndex
Get: 5 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main amd64 2013-08-23-0234.16.pdiff [6,833 B]
Get: 6 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main amd64 2013-08-23-0234.16.pdiff [6,833 B]
Get: 7 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main 2013-08-23-0234.16.pdiff [737 B]
Get: 8 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main 2013-08-23-0234.16.pdiff [737 B]
Get: 9 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main amd64 2013-08-23-0834.25.pdiff [4,436 B]
Get: 10 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main amd64 2013-08-23-0834.25.pdiff [4,436 B]
Get: 11 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main 2013-08-23-0834.25.pdiff [554 B]
Get: 12 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main 2013-08-23-0834.25.pdiff [554 B]
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid/main Translation-en_CA
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid/main Translation-en
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid/non-free Translation-en_CA
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid/non-free Translation-en
Fetched 259 kB in 6s (41.1 kB/s)

Current status: 23 updates [+1], 3979 new [+6].
The following packages will be upgraded:
  apt apt-utils cpp-4.7 gcc-4.7 gcc-4.7-base iceweasel libapt-inst1.5 libapt-pkg4.12 libdrm-dev libdrm-intel1
  libdrm-nouveau2 libdrm-radeon1 libdrm2 libgcc-4.7-dev libgpg-error0 libkms1 libmozjs23d libneon27-gnutls
  libtiff-tools libtiff5 xserver-common xserver-xorg-core{b} xulrunner-23.0
23 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 3,430 kB/39.0 MB of archives. After unpacking 480 kB will be freed.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 xserver-xorg-core : Depends: libudev1 (>= 183) which is a virtual package.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

      Remove the following packages:
1)      xorg
2)      xserver-xorg
3)      xserver-xorg-core
4)      xserver-xorg-input-all
5)      xserver-xorg-input-evdev
6)      xserver-xorg-input-mouse
7)      xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
8)      xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
9)      xserver-xorg-input-wacom
10)     xserver-xorg-video-all
11)     xserver-xorg-video-apm
12)     xserver-xorg-video-ark
13)     xserver-xorg-video-ati
14)     xserver-xorg-video-chips
15)     xserver-xorg-video-cirrus
16)     xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
17)     xserver-xorg-video-i128
18)     xserver-xorg-video-intel
19)     xserver-xorg-video-mach64
20)     xserver-xorg-video-mga
21)     xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
22)     xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
23)     xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
24)     xserver-xorg-video-r128
25)     xserver-xorg-video-radeon
26)     xserver-xorg-video-rendition
27)     xserver-xorg-video-s3
28)     xserver-xorg-video-s3virge
29)     xserver-xorg-video-savage
30)     xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion
31)     xserver-xorg-video-sis
32)     xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
33)     xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
34)     xserver-xorg-video-trident
35)     xserver-xorg-video-tseng
36)     xserver-xorg-video-vesa
37)     xserver-xorg-video-vmware
38)     xserver-xorg-video-voodoo



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]
==================================================

The following packages will be upgraded:
  apt apt-utils cpp-4.7 gcc-4.7 gcc-4.7-base iceweasel inkscape libapt-inst1.5 libapt-pkg4.12 libdrm-dev
  libdrm-intel1 libdrm-nouveau2 libdrm-radeon1 libdrm2 libedit2 libgcc-4.7-dev libgpg-error0 libkms1 libllvm3.2
  libmozjs23d libmtp-common libmtp-runtime libmtp9 libneon27-gnutls libtiff-tools libtiff5 xserver-common
  xserver-xorg-core xulrunner-23.0
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
  transfig
29 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 20.7 MB/58.3 MB of archives. After unpacking 314 kB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]
Get: 1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/main libedit2 amd64 3.1-20130712-1 [75.9 kB]
Get: 2 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/main libllvm3.2 amd64 1:3.2repack-11 [5,685 kB]
Get: 3 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/main libmtp-common all 1.1.6-20-g1b9f164-1 [61.6 kB]
Get: 4 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/main libmtp-runtime amd64 1.1.6-20-g1b9f164-1 [45.2 kB]
Get: 5 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/main libmtp9 amd64 1.1.6-20-g1b9f164-1 [177 kB]
Get: 6 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/main inkscape amd64 0.48.4-2 [12.9 MB]
Get: 7 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/main xserver-xorg-core amd64 2:1.12.4-6.2+b1 [1,733 kB]
Fetched 20.7 MB in 58s (355 kB/s)
Retrieving bug reports... Done
Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done
grave bugs of iceweasel (23.0~a2+20130614004016-1 -> 23.0.1-1) <unfixed>
 #719689 - iceweasel completely froze X when typing a URL
Summary:
 iceweasel(1 bug)
Are you sure you want to install/upgrade the above packages? [Y/n/?/...]
If this is not the right place for this, or feel free to slap my fingers or rap my knuckles with a ruler. :D

up & upit = sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade

EDIT: is there a way to determine what xserver-xorg-xxxxx stuff I need/don't need?
{I can see it now: DebianJoe: delete em all :D } ... but you know what I mean.
just point me in the right direction ...
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Re: Best to wait?

Unread post by dkeg » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:47 pm

I'm not sure about the other stuff, but I just went ahead and upg iceweasel. It did not seem like it had any affect on my system. Honestly I don't care much if that breaks, I can use another browser which I usually do anyway. but so far its fine.

Or you can put it on hold for now, sure it will be fixed soon.

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Re: Best to wait?

Unread post by Sector11 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:58 am

Thanks ...
The other stuff was yesterday and the day before, just the iceweasel one now. I have midori as a backup.
I'll let it run, normally I see stuff and wait but after two days with the xorg stuff I just wanted to check.
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Re: Best to wait?

Unread post by machinebacon » Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:05 am

It is the right place.
You still run the deb-multimedia archive? wow.
Though, aptitude can be sometimes funny, especially with these "Hey I've got an idea, what if we simply remove 57 packages just because one package needs a downgrade" ;) By all means, if X packages are affected of *Removal*, come here and ask or delay the dist-upgrade.
As for Iceweasel - that's just an app ;) Of course upgrade it and see if it breaks. Downgrade is always possible.
And a little hint: If you want to save your ass a few times a year, add siduction base and fixes to the sources.list
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Re: Best to wait?

Unread post by Sector11 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:23 pm

What's wrong with deb-multimedia?

You suggest "apt" over "aptitude"? I used "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" up until a short time ago.
Love aptitude show and search functions.

Iceweasel came in fine. :D

I noticed siduction in linuxbbq-darkside64. Are you saying adding a siduction kernel? smxi will do that I think as well as my nvidia drivers ... but the "and fixes" - OK, I'll cruise over to the siduction site and read. If I have Q's I'll be back.
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