Kernel 3.13-0.towo-siduction

[dkeg]

updating buffalo as we speak. Been awhile ... 195MB worth!

as an fyi, this is the same problem I was having with running the vanilla kernel in Colin.

* update - no go on Buffalo either *

[pidsley]

dkeg, does udev start loading before or after KMS? What video hardware do you have? Do you see anything interesting in the dmesg log?

[GekkoP]

Did some other investigations. Here something from my dmesg.

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[    8.827593] platform microcode: Direct firmware load failed with error -2
[    9.393873] platform microcode: Direct firmware load failed with error -2
[   10.793642] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[   11.417987] EXT4-fs (sda2): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: errors=remount-ro

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[   11.417154] EXT4-fs (sda2): warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended

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[    0.159724] acpi PNP0A03:00: _OSC failed (AE_NOT_FOUND); disabling ASPM
[    4.639609] systemd[1]: Cannot add dependency job for unit laptop-mode.service, ignoring: Unit laptop-mode.service failed to load: No such file or directory. See system logs and 'systemctl status laptop-mode.service' for details.
[    4.639653] systemd[1]: Cannot add dependency job for unit display-manager.service, ignoring: Unit display-manager.service failed to load: No such file or directory. See system logs and 'systemctl status display-manager.service' for details.
[    8.827593] platform microcode: Direct firmware load failed with error -2
[    9.393873] platform microcode: Direct firmware load failed with error -2
[   10.751436] PLL state assertion failure (expected on, current off)
[   10.751918] PLL state assertion failure (expected on, current off)

A line in dmesg suggested to boot with video.allow_duplicates=1, but had no effect.

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[   10.768377] [Firmware Bug]: Duplicate ACPI video bus devices for the same VGA controller, please try module parameter "video.allow_duplicates=1"if the current driver doesn't work.

[machinebacon]

platform microcode is the intel-microcode package, but this doesn't make any difference. I'm rather concerned about the display-manager unit.

Just to be clear: this only happens with the latest 3.13-0?

Gentlemen, please dist-upgrade regularly in the next days, I feel that there's a fix on the way. I just wonder why Pids and I don't have this problem.

[dkeg]

I'll keep updating daily.

dmesg here

Thanks pids. I don't see anything terribly obvious. Graphics card is Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller. AFAICT, udev happens first.

[GekkoP]

Yes, bacon, it only happens with 3.13-0. I'm typing this from 3.12-8.

[gurtid]

FWIW don't know if this adds anything of value - 13 running nicely here on Bakewell.
Warnings on upgrade about missing ATI firmware but no problems apparent.

maybe it's ya limp-wristed girly 32 bit operating systems:D ;) just kidding guys

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gurtid@bakewell_final_release ~ % inxi -F                   
Resuming in non X mode: glxinfo not found. For package install advice run: inxi --recommends
System:    Host: bakewell_final_release Kernel: 3.13-0.towo-siduction-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) 
           Desktop: Openbox 3.5.2 Distro: LinuxBBQ 3.2 Bakewell 64
Machine:   Mobo: Dell model: 0YXXJJ version: A10 Bios: Dell version: A10 date: 11/17/2010
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i5 CPU M 480 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 1197.00 MHz 2: 1197.00 MHz 3: 1197.00 MHz 4: 1197.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5650/5750 / 6530M/6550M] 
           X.org: 1.14.5 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 81x25 
Audio:     Card-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Redwood HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5000 Series] driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.13-0.towo-siduction-amd64
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: 
           Card-2: Broadcom BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter driver: bcma-pci-bridge 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (38.3% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: Hitachi_HTS54252 size: 250.1GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 6.5G used: 3.0G (48%) fs: ext4 ID: /home size: 19G used: 3.0G (18%) fs: ext4 
           ID: swap-1 size: 4.00GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 133 Uptime: 17 min Memory: 434.5/3829.5MB Runlevel: 5 Client: Shell (zsh) inxi: 1.9.17 
gurtid@bakewell_final_release ~ % sudo apt-cache policy udev
udev:
  Installed: 204-6
  Candidate: 204-6
  Version table:
 *** 204-6 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     204-5.2 0
        500 http://packages.siduction.org/fixes/ unstable/main amd64 Packages

[RandomCharacter]

The warnings are about the newest (Hawaii) chipsets. Most of us don't have them, yet.

Tim

[GekkoP]

I'll do as bacon suggest and do a daily dist-upgrade to see if something gets fixed.

[xaos52]

It works for me, but there are others that seem to have the same problem, booting into a dark screen, as you can see by by googling for "linux kernel 3.13 black screen" and limiting the search to last week.

[machinebacon]

It's interesting really. We can rule out systemd/sysvinit, also udev, and it seems it happens to some PAE and some non-PAE installations. I have tried to break my 3.13 by adding and removing stuff from the bootchain (sysvinit/systemd packages), also down- and upgrading udev, and "unfortunately" cannot reproduce anything. Tomorrow I will make a new installation on another PC and upgrade it stepwise via 3.12-8 to 3.13-0.

If somebody has time, he/she can check the kernel.org mailing list to see what changes have been introduced in 3.13. Also, there are the release candidates for the 3.13 kernel in the repos, so if anybody wants to try those, go ahead! Finally, just for kicks once more, try the slh kernel from aptosid or the newest liquorix.

That's all for now :) Have a good day everybody and thanks for the report!

[GekkoP]

Could it be something related to video card? Like dkeg, I too have an Intel card.

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00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) [8086:2a02] (rev 0c)

[machinebacon]

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00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller [8086:2592] (rev 03)

Intel itself does not pose a problem it seems, but the device is different here.

[pidsley]

Here's what's new in 3.13. I don't see anything obvious. I also have intel graphics, but again a different device.

http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.13

http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.13-DriversArch

Guys can you (just for kicks) try kernel 3.13-rc7 or -rc8? They should still be in the siduction repos (bacon already mentioned this).

[GekkoP]

Just tried with rc7 and rc8. No luck.

[machinebacon]

Question: do you guys (who experience the black screen) have hplip installed? If yes, in version >3.8?

[GekkoP]

I don't have hplip.

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hplip:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 3.14.1-1
  Version table:
     3.14.1-1 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main i386 Packages

[dkeg]

no sir, not here either.

[machinebacon]

Can we rule out this package?

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bbq@grill:~$ policy intel-microcode
intel-microcode:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 2.20130906.1
  Version table:
     2.20130906.1 0
        500 http://ftp.cn.debian.org/debian/ unstable/non-free i386 Packages

[dkeg]

yepper, we, I, can.